▲ 1036 ▼ I'm still not convinced Luigi is the guy but if he is.. (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 2 years ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world 132 comments fedilink hide all child comments source
[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (3 children) The political spectrum is fake bullshit made to divide the working class. The only ideology of the oligarchs is the acquisition of wealth, and they will assume any political persona in the pusuit of it. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Allero@lemmy.today 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd argue that, among the working class, the right wing of the political spectrum represents either the expectation/ambition to gain much more than others, or distrust of the left, commonly driven by following capitalist BS or having certain reservations or misunderstandings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That’s just economics though The right still pushes for religious liberties and gender identity while the left looks to abolish those things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Left and right are primarily economic, and we can only look at one axis at a time. Otherwise, what you would call, idk, a devout Christian commune where people share everything? Left, because they're equals, or right, because religion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You would call one opinion right and one left, you already know what a political compass looks like and they would fall into economically left, socially right quadrant until you find other beliefs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago Then we should define social left and right and keep it separate, and have one type of left and right as default (probably economic) or always mention it. Because otherwise there's a giant field for manipulations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Love it or hate it, political ideologies exist, and they exist on some spectrum permalink fedilink source parent [–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. George Orwell, 1984 The practical ethos of every authoritarian in history (including the self-styled "champions of the proletariat") is: It's not just that I have a lot; it's that I must always have more than everyone else, and they must be compelled to desire this. Forever. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd argue that, among the working class, the right wing of the political spectrum represents either the expectation/ambition to gain much more than others, or distrust of the left, commonly driven by following capitalist BS or having certain reservations or misunderstandings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That’s just economics though The right still pushes for religious liberties and gender identity while the left looks to abolish those things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Left and right are primarily economic, and we can only look at one axis at a time. Otherwise, what you would call, idk, a devout Christian commune where people share everything? Left, because they're equals, or right, because religion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You would call one opinion right and one left, you already know what a political compass looks like and they would fall into economically left, socially right quadrant until you find other beliefs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago Then we should define social left and right and keep it separate, and have one type of left and right as default (probably economic) or always mention it. Because otherwise there's a giant field for manipulations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That’s just economics though The right still pushes for religious liberties and gender identity while the left looks to abolish those things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Left and right are primarily economic, and we can only look at one axis at a time. Otherwise, what you would call, idk, a devout Christian commune where people share everything? Left, because they're equals, or right, because religion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You would call one opinion right and one left, you already know what a political compass looks like and they would fall into economically left, socially right quadrant until you find other beliefs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago Then we should define social left and right and keep it separate, and have one type of left and right as default (probably economic) or always mention it. Because otherwise there's a giant field for manipulations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Left and right are primarily economic, and we can only look at one axis at a time. Otherwise, what you would call, idk, a devout Christian commune where people share everything? Left, because they're equals, or right, because religion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You would call one opinion right and one left, you already know what a political compass looks like and they would fall into economically left, socially right quadrant until you find other beliefs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago Then we should define social left and right and keep it separate, and have one type of left and right as default (probably economic) or always mention it. Because otherwise there's a giant field for manipulations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You would call one opinion right and one left, you already know what a political compass looks like and they would fall into economically left, socially right quadrant until you find other beliefs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago Then we should define social left and right and keep it separate, and have one type of left and right as default (probably economic) or always mention it. Because otherwise there's a giant field for manipulations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago Then we should define social left and right and keep it separate, and have one type of left and right as default (probably economic) or always mention it. Because otherwise there's a giant field for manipulations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Love it or hate it, political ideologies exist, and they exist on some spectrum permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. George Orwell, 1984 The practical ethos of every authoritarian in history (including the self-styled "champions of the proletariat") is: It's not just that I have a lot; it's that I must always have more than everyone else, and they must be compelled to desire this. Forever. permalink fedilink source parent
