1036
I'm still not convinced Luigi is the guy but if he is.. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/memes@lemmy.world
132 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

source

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 32 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

And the landscape of US politics is so fucked at this point that which "side" somebody is allegedly on based on donkeys and elephants, or whose podcasts they listen to, or who they retweet is really only an entertaining starting point to determining what the hell their views actually are.

I'm sure plenty of "right wing" Republican voters actually would agree with us here on a lot of things once you broke down individual topics -- possibly with a little bit of rephrasing of things, and after you punched through the layer of bullshit, lies, racism, identity politics, and incessant fearmongering over non-issues that the GOP slathers all over everything they say nowadays.

Liberals and conservatives generally actually agree on these two core concepts, vis-a-vis:

  • We want the government to provide for us what we think everyone ought to deserve to get, and
  • We want it for "free."
  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Pretty famously the Affordable Care Act polls pretty well with both parties whereas Obamacare polls very poorly with Republicans. One would find that odd considering those are two different names for the same thing

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Propaganda is a powerful drug.

    I had an acquaintance try to tell me that Presidents didn't use executive orders before Obama. He was mad because Obama "started the whole executive order thing".

    It took me a minute to process the level of stupid that it takes to actually believe that considering,
    1.) The US constitution grants the president broad discretion over the executive branch.
    2.) An "executive order" is nothing more than a directive from the president to an agency or department under the executive branch.
    3.) Nearly every president since Washington has issued executive orders, although they weren't called "executive orders" and did not have any sort of numbering system until 1907.

    So basically he was mad at Obama and every president thereafter for checks notes doing their job.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Same folks will be like, x issued more orders than any other president, but also excitedly talking about record revenue, turnout, etc. As if the stuff they agree with grows in a vacuum away from the stuff they disagree with.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I'm sure plenty of "right wing" Republican voters actually would agree with us here on a lot of things once you broke down individual topics

    I wouldn't be surprised. USSA, unlike Europe, is politically homogenous. Instead of 100500 different parties it has only right wing and more right wing party.

    And there was video demonstrating what you said.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent