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[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Id barely call the byzantines the Romans. They were a greek led empire permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago reaches for spatha permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Unfair, there is still actual debate amongst historians and scholars about when the Roman empire ended, and if ever, it fell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Among which historians specifically? I'm unaware of any serious debate here other than propagandists using the name second Rome, third Rome, ceaser etc. sorry buddy Roman empire collapsed when the franks, Visigoths, ostrogoths and Huns toppled the west. Wanna know why it ended then? Byzantine had split long before into a separate entity to distance itself from Rome and when it collapsed it chugged along with it's greek orthodox ideals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) That's ignorant of modern scholarship. Here are some serious historians you might want to look into: Peter Heather Anthony Kaldellis Averil Cameron Timothy Gregory John Haldon There are others, of course. And no. By the time the Western half collapsed, the East had not drifted apart. That started happening 2-3 centuries later, definitely after Justinian. And it was not even completed as a process until after the 4th crusade at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly you are right as someone who started his love for history with the Romans, I didn't know this was a debate, so I did some research and to me personally the end of the Roman empire was 476ad with the last western Roman empire abdicating. Or perhaps the fall of Constantinople permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Roma Invicta, frater! It's a fascinating topic! Keep learning! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago It absolutely is. Tho to be honest it was my beginning foray into history since then, my new passion is bronze age middle eastern/Indus history. But of course the glory of Rome is unlike many others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Unfair, there is still actual debate amongst historians and scholars about when the Roman empire ended, and if ever, it fell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Among which historians specifically? I'm unaware of any serious debate here other than propagandists using the name second Rome, third Rome, ceaser etc. sorry buddy Roman empire collapsed when the franks, Visigoths, ostrogoths and Huns toppled the west. Wanna know why it ended then? Byzantine had split long before into a separate entity to distance itself from Rome and when it collapsed it chugged along with it's greek orthodox ideals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) That's ignorant of modern scholarship. Here are some serious historians you might want to look into: Peter Heather Anthony Kaldellis Averil Cameron Timothy Gregory John Haldon There are others, of course. And no. By the time the Western half collapsed, the East had not drifted apart. That started happening 2-3 centuries later, definitely after Justinian. And it was not even completed as a process until after the 4th crusade at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly you are right as someone who started his love for history with the Romans, I didn't know this was a debate, so I did some research and to me personally the end of the Roman empire was 476ad with the last western Roman empire abdicating. Or perhaps the fall of Constantinople permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Roma Invicta, frater! It's a fascinating topic! Keep learning! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago It absolutely is. Tho to be honest it was my beginning foray into history since then, my new passion is bronze age middle eastern/Indus history. But of course the glory of Rome is unlike many others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Among which historians specifically? I'm unaware of any serious debate here other than propagandists using the name second Rome, third Rome, ceaser etc. sorry buddy Roman empire collapsed when the franks, Visigoths, ostrogoths and Huns toppled the west. Wanna know why it ended then? Byzantine had split long before into a separate entity to distance itself from Rome and when it collapsed it chugged along with it's greek orthodox ideals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) That's ignorant of modern scholarship. Here are some serious historians you might want to look into: Peter Heather Anthony Kaldellis Averil Cameron Timothy Gregory John Haldon There are others, of course. And no. By the time the Western half collapsed, the East had not drifted apart. That started happening 2-3 centuries later, definitely after Justinian. And it was not even completed as a process until after the 4th crusade at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly you are right as someone who started his love for history with the Romans, I didn't know this was a debate, so I did some research and to me personally the end of the Roman empire was 476ad with the last western Roman empire abdicating. Or perhaps the fall of Constantinople permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Roma Invicta, frater! It's a fascinating topic! Keep learning! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago It absolutely is. Tho to be honest it was my beginning foray into history since then, my new passion is bronze age middle eastern/Indus history. But of course the glory of Rome is unlike many others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) That's ignorant of modern scholarship. Here are some serious historians you might want to look into: Peter Heather Anthony Kaldellis Averil Cameron Timothy Gregory John Haldon There are others, of course. And no. By the time the Western half collapsed, the East had not drifted apart. That started happening 2-3 centuries later, definitely after Justinian. And it was not even completed as a process until after the 4th crusade at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly you are right as someone who started his love for history with the Romans, I didn't know this was a debate, so I did some research and to me personally the end of the Roman empire was 476ad with the last western Roman empire abdicating. Or perhaps the fall of Constantinople permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Roma Invicta, frater! It's a fascinating topic! Keep learning! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago It absolutely is. Tho to be honest it was my beginning foray into history since then, my new passion is bronze age middle eastern/Indus history. But of course the glory of Rome is unlike many others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly you are right as someone who started his love for history with the Romans, I didn't know this was a debate, so I did some research and to me personally the end of the Roman empire was 476ad with the last western Roman empire abdicating. Or perhaps the fall of Constantinople permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Roma Invicta, frater! It's a fascinating topic! Keep learning! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago It absolutely is. Tho to be honest it was my beginning foray into history since then, my new passion is bronze age middle eastern/Indus history. But of course the glory of Rome is unlike many others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Roma Invicta, frater! It's a fascinating topic! Keep learning! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago It absolutely is. Tho to be honest it was my beginning foray into history since then, my new passion is bronze age middle eastern/Indus history. But of course the glory of Rome is unlike many others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago It absolutely is. Tho to be honest it was my beginning foray into history since then, my new passion is bronze age middle eastern/Indus history. But of course the glory of Rome is unlike many others permalink fedilink source parent