▲ 770 ▼ Heavy Metals (mander.xyz) submitted 2 years ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 46 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 40 points 2 years ago (14 children) What's organic iron? permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] SandmanXC@lemmy.world 151 points 2 years ago (1 child) Same as iron but costs 30% more permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago The correct answer here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 35 points 2 years ago* Doesn't exist. Some metals can form organometallic complexes (with CO, CN, methyl groups), in which case you get for instance "organic mercury" compounds. Iron can also do that, but that's not what theyre talking about here. What they mean is "biogenic" iron. The snail precipitates dissolved iron and sulfur in the water to form its shell out of iron sulfide. Its a different physical structure, but chemically similar to iron pyrite (fools gold). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rubisco@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Looks like iron sulfide, pyrite, and greigite in this case. Highlights from this rabbit hole: "imbricating chitinous sclerites" and "conchiolin". https://www.marinebio.org/species/scaly-foot-snails/chrysomallon-squamiferum/ https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-15522-3 https://academic.oup.com/biolinnean/article-abstract/114/4/949/2415936 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] reinei@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Wait GregTech has its own iron ores in real life now as well‽ permalink fedilink source parent [–] DoYouNot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hazarding a guess, but I think it's referring to something like "the biologically mediated reduction of iron". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd have guessed iron+carbon, instead (so, steel). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemming741@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Lots of carbon = iron Little bit of carbon = steel Zero carbon = iron It's confusing, I know permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) organic iron plates, not plates of organic iron. the plates are generated by an organic process, not out of organic materials. you can't just remove a word from the context and act as if that doesn't change the meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) organic iron plates, not plates of organic iron. the plates are generated by an organic process, not out of organic materials. Makes sense, thanks you can’t just remove a word from the context and act as if that doesn’t change the meaning. Well, I'm not a native english speaker and the title seemed at least misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) fair enough! I see now that my comment might look a little antagonizing, that was not what I wanted to express, sorry bout that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No problem, man. Languages are bitches! permalink fedilink source parent [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wikipedia says it's iron sulfide. I'm not sure that's organic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Yeah, no. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SandmanXC@lemmy.world 151 points 2 years ago (1 child) Same as iron but costs 30% more permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago The correct answer here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 35 points 2 years ago* Doesn't exist. Some metals can form organometallic complexes (with CO, CN, methyl groups), in which case you get for instance "organic mercury" compounds. Iron can also do that, but that's not what theyre talking about here. What they mean is "biogenic" iron. The snail precipitates dissolved iron and sulfur in the water to form its shell out of iron sulfide. Its a different physical structure, but chemically similar to iron pyrite (fools gold). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rubisco@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Looks like iron sulfide, pyrite, and greigite in this case. Highlights from this rabbit hole: "imbricating chitinous sclerites" and "conchiolin". https://www.marinebio.org/species/scaly-foot-snails/chrysomallon-squamiferum/ https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-15522-3 https://academic.oup.com/biolinnean/article-abstract/114/4/949/2415936 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] reinei@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Wait GregTech has its own iron ores in real life now as well‽ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reinei@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Wait GregTech has its own iron ores in real life now as well‽ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DoYouNot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hazarding a guess, but I think it's referring to something like "the biologically mediated reduction of iron". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd have guessed iron+carbon, instead (so, steel). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemming741@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Lots of carbon = iron Little bit of carbon = steel Zero carbon = iron It's confusing, I know permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd have guessed iron+carbon, instead (so, steel). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemming741@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Lots of carbon = iron Little bit of carbon = steel Zero carbon = iron It's confusing, I know permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Lots of carbon = iron Little bit of carbon = steel Zero carbon = iron It's confusing, I know permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) organic iron plates, not plates of organic iron. the plates are generated by an organic process, not out of organic materials. you can't just remove a word from the context and act as if that doesn't change the meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) organic iron plates, not plates of organic iron. the plates are generated by an organic process, not out of organic materials. Makes sense, thanks you can’t just remove a word from the context and act as if that doesn’t change the meaning. Well, I'm not a native english speaker and the title seemed at least misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) fair enough! I see now that my comment might look a little antagonizing, that was not what I wanted to express, sorry bout that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No problem, man. Languages are bitches! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) organic iron plates, not plates of organic iron. the plates are generated by an organic process, not out of organic materials. Makes sense, thanks you can’t just remove a word from the context and act as if that doesn’t change the meaning. Well, I'm not a native english speaker and the title seemed at least misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) fair enough! I see now that my comment might look a little antagonizing, that was not what I wanted to express, sorry bout that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No problem, man. Languages are bitches! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) fair enough! I see now that my comment might look a little antagonizing, that was not what I wanted to express, sorry bout that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No problem, man. Languages are bitches! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No problem, man. Languages are bitches! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wikipedia says it's iron sulfide. I'm not sure that's organic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Yeah, no. permalink fedilink source parent