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Conservative parent is sad his daughters aren't coming for thanksgiving after voting for Trump (lemmy.world)

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[+] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -97 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Many, many who vote conservative, used to be liberal. Haven't you learned that most people turn conservatives as they get older? After growth, and learning more about life and politics, people tend to turn conservative...

The writing on the wall is plain and simple.

Through experience, people can perceive what politics actually effect their life/family/bottom dollar. The 40yo dumbass has seen president's come and go. The 20yo dumbass might not even have voted for a president yet. But which dumbass probably has a better formed opinion?

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[–] rautapekoni@sopuli.xyz 65 points 2 years ago (1 child)

As it's also fondly called, the "Fuck you, I got mine" phenomenon.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 38 points 2 years ago

100% of the conservatives I’ve known in my life were this, and the libertarians were the same. They have a narrow, self-centered view of everything, and think that everyone has the same exact opportunities they have. If someone isn’t as successful as they are, instead of acknowledging that everyone has a unique set of barriers and experiences, they dismissively write it off as them being lazy.

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[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

I gotta say, I'm becoming more lefty as I age. I grew up with an emphasis on personal responsibility, self reliance etc. Those principles still ring true with me. But I have seen them twisted by conservatives to be used against individuals in the interests of the 1%, the corporations. Trump doesn't even pretend to play by the same rules. He has literally said "I take no responsibility at all" while as the president for things he was in control of. That's not a leader, it's a ruler.

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

In my experience, the loudest conservatives I've met have all fallen into 2 categories:

Explicitly "fuck you I got mine" I can at least appreciate the honesty with these ones.

And "I haven't read a book since 12th grade, and now I struggle to read at a 2nd grade level." And that's just performing the act of reading. Actual comprehension and critical thinking are completely beyond them.

The religious types are part of the equation too, but my area isn't particularly religious, so I don't often come across those assholes.

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[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

The religious types are really just subsets of the other types who want to play the "See, it is not me saying all those bigoted things about you, it is my god" card to avoid counter-arguments.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I’ve heard this multiple times and have very rarely seen it apply. Usually if they’re conservative in their later years, they always were. It just wasn’t as prevalent or talked about. I’ve been a lefty since I was a kid and have not deviated at all.

It’s like people that once supported Bernie now voting for Trump (they’re a strange anomaly but they exist). They were never actually liberal. They either voted entirely on vibes and feels, or they got swept up in the wave of others around them. Then eventually their true self surfaces.

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[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People grow more conservative when they have something to conserve. Also because they're wanker and weren't raised right.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 12 points 2 years ago

I find that they’re usually fixated on materialistic things. They get a little money and it goes to their head.

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[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago*

Also the world moves towards progressiveness by definition so people who still have the same views with 80 as they did with 20 are probably more conservative (in the traditional sense of the word) relative to the rest of the world.

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[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 21 points 2 years ago

I don't think age makes people conservative, I think power makes people conservative. If you accumulate wealth and power then you may become conservative in order to protect your wealth from taxes.

Just as others in this thread have said, it's the "fuck you, I got mine" attitude.

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago

It could be "learning more about life and politics" or it could be "becoming senile and having a steady diet of FOX News, Facebook, and YouTube". Since higher levels of education are correlated with leftist politics, I'm betting on the second one.

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[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

I used to be more leaft leaning when young yes. Now I turned 40.... I'm feeling anarchist I tell ya... Burn everything stop oppressing no one should have power.

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[–] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

No, that's just one of those sayings that goes around. It's the assumption that people make more money as they age thus causing them to be more conservative. Maybe this was true in the 80s

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[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I am 44 and went from conservative to liberal. My parents always told me I would switch as I got older and that was wrong. What I learned was conservatives want three things: money, controlling people, and being allowed to say the quiet part out loud.

What amazes me is conservatives are "Christian" yet don't want to provide health care to people. I don't remember Jesus in the bible healing people then asking for payment later.

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[–] Letsdothis@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

Everyone is dynamic and unique, and no one's experience is the same as another's. Of course. I speak in generalities. Personally, I grew up identifying as conservative, then around 23, as my political opinions changed, I considered myself a liberal. That lasted about a dozen years, but now, again, I consider i probably fall more into the conservative camp.

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