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Forest of trees (lemmy.ml)
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[–] -1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Liberalism is fundamentally an ideology of private property ownership and that’s why it always inevitably devolved into fascism in times of crisis.

What does this have to with anarchism, which rejects private property?

Anarchists place their individual freedom above collective good, and thus align with liberal capitalists in action.

Anarchists believe that it is neither a supreme ruler nor the majority that decide what collective good is. I reject your idea that the collective good is something we have to decide on collectively and then force upon those who disagree. Anarchists have been brutally repressed in Western countries, they in no way align with liberal capitalists in action.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Everything anarchists do in tangible terms helps maintain liberal capitalist rule. That's the reality of the situation. Hence why anarchists are just LARPing without any tangible plan of action. Anarchists love moaning about being brutally repressed, but refused to take any action against the repression.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    IMO, building support networks and communities is better than meeting in dark rooms and planning revolutions. Or what is your plan of action? (Genuinely asking)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Nobody is talking about any dark rooms, just go look at what PSL is doing very much in the open. If you look at any successful revolution it has always started by building support networks and organizing communities. It's kind of wild that you are not aware of this. The difference with communists is that we understand that an organized dictatorship of capital requires organization and education to fight against. So, along with building out support networks we also focus on political education, organization, and long term goals.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    That sounds like we're quite aligned with our methodology actually. So why are you so standoffish?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The whole context for this thread is you claiming that an actually existing socialist state is not really socialist because it doesn't pass your purity test.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well it was originally me starting a mud fight about the meaning of the word tankie, but then we got sidetracked.

    IMO, anarchists and communists have more overlap than we might think we do.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Sure, anarcho-syndicalism seems very compatible with Marxism for example. The main disagreement tends to be around what is actually to be done about the dictatorship of capital that we all live under in the west.

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