▲ 264 ▼ The Meat Lobby Outspent Animal Rights Groups, Climate Groups, and Scientists, spending around $200 million in 2023 (medium.com) submitted 2 years ago by Sunshine@lemmy.ca to c/politics@lemmy.world 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -28 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm not watching your YouTube video. if you can't articulate a compelling reason, just say so. I find it hard to believe that it is the biggest impact a single person can have. can you enumerate the other strategies it is weighed against? you also aren't supporting your claims about affordability, health, nor ease with anything but anecdotal evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm not watching your YouTube video. if you can't articulate a compelling reason, just say so. What absolutely trash reasoning. "Please type up a compelling reason just for me, I don't want to watch a well researched and produced discussion on the topic." It's bordering on sealioning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago Please type up a compelling reason just for me Here's another video just on that! permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I did watch that video. probably a dozen times. it gets posted often. I shouldn't be expected to debunk an argument that isn't made. I rewatched* it after I made my comment though, and it does not establish what they claimed. it doesn't cite sources**, and it's primary thesis is "it's complicated" edit(s): * i actually listened to it. but just now, after i made this comment, i scrubbed it and i found: ** they do some pretty hard-to-see and also hard-to-research citation in the form of citing academic papers in the bottom right of the screen around the time they are making the claim. and let me tell you, poore-nemecek is the basis of the lca analysis (which i could have guessed), and that lca analysis is flat out bad science. it's certainly not a compelling reason to be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Those are very fair objections and that video isn't perfect - I was only objecting to your apparent refusal to consume a video. A lot of content these days is produced in video form so it's not reasonable to reject an argument based on media - some topics just aren't well expressed in a written form. But, TL;DR I wasn't criticizing your opinion or decision - just the common response of rejecting something based on the media it's presented in. permalink fedilink source parent [+] eskimofry@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) calling me names is neither an argument nor evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The evidence has been given to you in the form of links to youtube videos. You refusing to click through isn't lack of evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 2 years ago I looked at it. it's not compelling permalink fedilink source parent [+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago Well said! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm not watching your YouTube video. if you can't articulate a compelling reason, just say so. What absolutely trash reasoning. "Please type up a compelling reason just for me, I don't want to watch a well researched and produced discussion on the topic." It's bordering on sealioning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago Please type up a compelling reason just for me Here's another video just on that! permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I did watch that video. probably a dozen times. it gets posted often. I shouldn't be expected to debunk an argument that isn't made. I rewatched* it after I made my comment though, and it does not establish what they claimed. it doesn't cite sources**, and it's primary thesis is "it's complicated" edit(s): * i actually listened to it. but just now, after i made this comment, i scrubbed it and i found: ** they do some pretty hard-to-see and also hard-to-research citation in the form of citing academic papers in the bottom right of the screen around the time they are making the claim. and let me tell you, poore-nemecek is the basis of the lca analysis (which i could have guessed), and that lca analysis is flat out bad science. it's certainly not a compelling reason to be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Those are very fair objections and that video isn't perfect - I was only objecting to your apparent refusal to consume a video. A lot of content these days is produced in video form so it's not reasonable to reject an argument based on media - some topics just aren't well expressed in a written form. But, TL;DR I wasn't criticizing your opinion or decision - just the common response of rejecting something based on the media it's presented in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago Please type up a compelling reason just for me Here's another video just on that! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I did watch that video. probably a dozen times. it gets posted often. I shouldn't be expected to debunk an argument that isn't made. I rewatched* it after I made my comment though, and it does not establish what they claimed. it doesn't cite sources**, and it's primary thesis is "it's complicated" edit(s): * i actually listened to it. but just now, after i made this comment, i scrubbed it and i found: ** they do some pretty hard-to-see and also hard-to-research citation in the form of citing academic papers in the bottom right of the screen around the time they are making the claim. and let me tell you, poore-nemecek is the basis of the lca analysis (which i could have guessed), and that lca analysis is flat out bad science. it's certainly not a compelling reason to be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Those are very fair objections and that video isn't perfect - I was only objecting to your apparent refusal to consume a video. A lot of content these days is produced in video form so it's not reasonable to reject an argument based on media - some topics just aren't well expressed in a written form. But, TL;DR I wasn't criticizing your opinion or decision - just the common response of rejecting something based on the media it's presented in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Those are very fair objections and that video isn't perfect - I was only objecting to your apparent refusal to consume a video. A lot of content these days is produced in video form so it's not reasonable to reject an argument based on media - some topics just aren't well expressed in a written form. But, TL;DR I wasn't criticizing your opinion or decision - just the common response of rejecting something based on the media it's presented in. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] eskimofry@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) calling me names is neither an argument nor evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The evidence has been given to you in the form of links to youtube videos. You refusing to click through isn't lack of evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 2 years ago I looked at it. it's not compelling permalink fedilink source parent [+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago Well said! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) calling me names is neither an argument nor evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The evidence has been given to you in the form of links to youtube videos. You refusing to click through isn't lack of evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 2 years ago I looked at it. it's not compelling permalink fedilink source parent [+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago Well said! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The evidence has been given to you in the form of links to youtube videos. You refusing to click through isn't lack of evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 2 years ago I looked at it. it's not compelling permalink fedilink source parent
[+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 2 years ago I looked at it. it's not compelling permalink fedilink source parent