So it's misdirection. It should be "You're the product". Free or not doesn't matter.

Mate. Everyone is the product. Everyone's attention is being paid for. Every service is collecting your data. Everyone wants your screen time and is happy to pay for it.

"If it's free you are the product" has been drilled into us to accept the bullshit of Facebook, Google and the rest. Get it in your head now: you are the product, always. Unconditionally. No exceptions.

Hey mate, so this comment is just not productive. I'm going to be a little hyperbolic here: if everyone alive is being advertised to then your "unrelated ways companies making suckers out of their customers" comment isn't correct or honest. It's the norm, everyones going through it is totally related.

I talked about companies that lock you into their ecosystems and force you to have a stake in their business model. They do this for two reasons: you make money and they want it, and if you spend your money elsewhere they don't get it. Name one phone manufacturer that isn't stealing your data. Name one social media app that isn't spyware. Name one online store, review site or fucking cooking blog that isn't loaded with ad trackers and cursor monitoring shit that tells you to subscribe as soon as you go to close the tab.

Sure some smaller examples exist (I love lemmy, this place is awesome), sure I can download a free open source os, or just install an:

Adblocker User agent spoofer Anti track-sender Set my browser to stop allowing targeted ads or download a privacy browser

but everyone is still stuck using the other products in some capacity just the same. I'm happy for you if you fall outside this, seriously. However, most people do not. We are stuck and it's because we got prayed upon. So yeah, everyone is the product. Always. No exceptions.

I wish more people on Reddit and Twitter would recognize that and use more discretion with who they're creating a product for.

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It's easy enough to use the API to scrape the site and use all the posts and DMs for free. It'd be odd for OpenAI to pay for it.

Please do recognize that anything you post publicly IS public, whether that's Facebook or here. The lack of an API isn't going to stop places from scraping your data off of Facebook or Reddit either.

Your DMs here are explicitly public. That's part of the federation between servers. If you want truly private DMs, there are options for that.

I suppose I should mention for full disclosure that I'm part of the (unpaid) staff here representing the Lemmy.World Community Team.

They don't need to sell access... It's free. Assume anything you post here is getting sniffed up by everyone.