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We should probably be agitating on .world (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/chat@hexbear.net
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There are a bunch of sicko neoliberals and insufferable redditors there, yes, but there are also some normal libs and a few comrades, and it seems like a good way to encourage lemmy generally to re-embrace leftism.

I've been using an alt to talk on there and it's honestly not that bad. It's a little bad, but not that bad. I think if we just try to patiently explain ourselves, we have a reasonable chance of reaching people and shifting the general political alignment.

Those of us who aren't up to dealing with ghouls (I am frequently included in this group) can just stay at home here and that's just fine.

Anyway, just an idea. I would appreciate feedback.

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[–] 35 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Agitating on lemmy is a waste of time, these are not normal people, these are Redditors who took redditing so seriously they decided to go make an even worse version of reddit

They're reactionaries and bigots the whole lot of them, if there's any place on the internet we should be agitating on it's Tik Tok before it gets banned, tens of millions of people regularly liking leftist Tik Tok content that wouldn't be out of place here on Hexbear, and we're still obsessed with a couple hundred dipshit Redditors who regularly upvote pro-genocide and pro-neonazi content every single day

For over a year now I've maintained that outreach, agitating, federating, and in general educating has always been a lauded goal, but the problem is the quality of the people we're interacting with and the people on lemmy are barely worth a dunk thread let alone serious outreach

From my perspective it's like if someone kept pressing us to agitate on 4chan or some shit, it's such a profound waste of time and energy

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's not true. I joined .world first because I didn't know about hexbear and didn't know how the fediverse worked

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    You'd still be an outlier in that case, not representative of some positive general trend when it comes to a shithole like .world

    There's been comrades who've found us thru 4chan, doesn't mean we should engage with 4chan

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    They're reactionaries and bigots the whole lot of them, if there's any place on the internet we should be agitating on it's Tik Tok before it gets banned, tens of millions of people regularly liking leftist Tik Tok content that wouldn't be out of place here on Hexbear, and we're still obsessed with a couple hundred dipshit Redditors who regularly upvote pro-genocide and pro-neonazi content every single day

    The problem is that most people on Hexbear dot net think they're too good for Tiktok lol. But you are 100% right. People who are serious about treating social media as a propaganda front should be on Tiktok because that's where people are plugged in.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The problem is that most people on Hexbear dot net think they're too good for Tiktok lol

    And I'll admit I used to be one of those people, until I gave it a shot and came across TikToks with 1 million plus likes with tens of thousands of comments about anti-imperialism, anti-capitalism, anti-racism....it was like finding the internet of a parallel universe where western leftism was actually a thing, I couldn't believe it

    Then the state decided to ban it and that was all the confirmation I needed, it's the real deal and our asses have been way too slow to recognize the potential it offers

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And I'll admit I used to be one of those people, until I gave it a shot and came across TikToks with 1 million plus likes with tens of thousands of comments about anti-imperialism, anti-capitalism, anti-racism....it was like finding the internet of a parallel universe where western leftism was actually a thing, I couldn't believe it

    How do you find this on TikTok? Genuinely find the app impossible to navigate

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Just search whatever you want. Treat the search like any other search engine. Engage with content you want to see. Like it, favorite it, repost it, comment, etc. Follow people who post content you like. The algorithm is pretty solid at feeding you what you want to see after that.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    4chan is honestly easier because there's no upvotes/likes, so instead you get lots of (you)s/replies. And more replies means more people will look at whatever it is got so many replies, creating more replies. Like you can say something mildly left leaning and completely derail a reactionary discussion.

    Like they'll be talking about how to kill single mothers or something and you drop a "Well I liked my mom she helped instill feminist values in me and I think it's the white male patriarchy that causes more issues," they will shift into soy nonsense and emasculation. So you've gotten them to stop plotting how to kill moms and now they're talking about where to buy testosterone supplements.

    I forgot where I was going with this....probably something about how 4chan is a waste of time, which some how r*dditors still manage to be worse. Oh and you have to expose yourself to vile brainworms and slurs.

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