▲ 146 ▼ Libs trying not to blame communists for the holocaust challenge (impossible) (midwest.social) submitted 2 years ago by archomrade@midwest.social to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://lemmy.world/post/19730104
[+] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 81 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because that worked out so well in California, New York, and Illinois. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) They legitimately think the GOP exists because a group of people brainwashed a bunch of people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could you expand on this a little bit? I don’t think I entirely understand and might even learn something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Let's start with where you understand, and we will see where we disagree. My position is history is primarily driven by Material Conditions, ie the status of reality itself and what came before it, and not by individuals moving against the current, so to speak. As an example, if Karl Marx was born in the year 1200, he would not have had the ideas he does, there would be no conception of Dialectical Materialism from him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t disagree so much as I thought you may have been saying this, but wasn’t sure. Thank you for clarifying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* Perfect! Essentially, to wrap it around, the Republican party exists because the conditions for it exist. The idea that we can "vote blue until the Reps are no more, then a left party will take its place" is wrong, because they won't remove the conditions for a fascist party. The new party will be fascist as well, or permadem rule for right wing Dems, like California. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because that worked out so well in California, New York, and Illinois. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) They legitimately think the GOP exists because a group of people brainwashed a bunch of people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could you expand on this a little bit? I don’t think I entirely understand and might even learn something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Let's start with where you understand, and we will see where we disagree. My position is history is primarily driven by Material Conditions, ie the status of reality itself and what came before it, and not by individuals moving against the current, so to speak. As an example, if Karl Marx was born in the year 1200, he would not have had the ideas he does, there would be no conception of Dialectical Materialism from him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t disagree so much as I thought you may have been saying this, but wasn’t sure. Thank you for clarifying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* Perfect! Essentially, to wrap it around, the Republican party exists because the conditions for it exist. The idea that we can "vote blue until the Reps are no more, then a left party will take its place" is wrong, because they won't remove the conditions for a fascist party. The new party will be fascist as well, or permadem rule for right wing Dems, like California. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could you expand on this a little bit? I don’t think I entirely understand and might even learn something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Let's start with where you understand, and we will see where we disagree. My position is history is primarily driven by Material Conditions, ie the status of reality itself and what came before it, and not by individuals moving against the current, so to speak. As an example, if Karl Marx was born in the year 1200, he would not have had the ideas he does, there would be no conception of Dialectical Materialism from him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t disagree so much as I thought you may have been saying this, but wasn’t sure. Thank you for clarifying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* Perfect! Essentially, to wrap it around, the Republican party exists because the conditions for it exist. The idea that we can "vote blue until the Reps are no more, then a left party will take its place" is wrong, because they won't remove the conditions for a fascist party. The new party will be fascist as well, or permadem rule for right wing Dems, like California. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Let's start with where you understand, and we will see where we disagree. My position is history is primarily driven by Material Conditions, ie the status of reality itself and what came before it, and not by individuals moving against the current, so to speak. As an example, if Karl Marx was born in the year 1200, he would not have had the ideas he does, there would be no conception of Dialectical Materialism from him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t disagree so much as I thought you may have been saying this, but wasn’t sure. Thank you for clarifying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* Perfect! Essentially, to wrap it around, the Republican party exists because the conditions for it exist. The idea that we can "vote blue until the Reps are no more, then a left party will take its place" is wrong, because they won't remove the conditions for a fascist party. The new party will be fascist as well, or permadem rule for right wing Dems, like California. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t disagree so much as I thought you may have been saying this, but wasn’t sure. Thank you for clarifying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* Perfect! Essentially, to wrap it around, the Republican party exists because the conditions for it exist. The idea that we can "vote blue until the Reps are no more, then a left party will take its place" is wrong, because they won't remove the conditions for a fascist party. The new party will be fascist as well, or permadem rule for right wing Dems, like California. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* Perfect! Essentially, to wrap it around, the Republican party exists because the conditions for it exist. The idea that we can "vote blue until the Reps are no more, then a left party will take its place" is wrong, because they won't remove the conditions for a fascist party. The new party will be fascist as well, or permadem rule for right wing Dems, like California. permalink fedilink source parent