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Bluesky continues to soar (techcrunch.com)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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[–] 27 points 2 years ago (53 children)

I've been on Mastodon for over a year and the content simply isn't there. Several of the people that I follow on Twitter have tried moving or duplicating to Mastodon. They've had a fraction of the visibility and engagement from commenters that they would get on Twitter. Invariably after a few months they have essentially given up on it as a primary medium. For me the discoverability is essentially non-existent, which I don't think is helped by the idea of it being based around instance-local communities, which have no meaning when you're looking at something like Twitter.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    My experience has been better. User engagement is much higher per follower and the discussions don’t devolve. They’re much more useful and/or interesting. KPIs don’t measure everything.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Many people are most interested in profit as their only KPI and mastodon puts up a lot of hurdles for those people.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    „The content“ is there. Its just the addiction inducing, never ending dopamine that doesnt flow as freely which is great.

    If you follow the topics that are most prevalent on the fedi (eg freedom, activism, technology, diversity) you will not run out unless you scroll for many hours a day, which is suggests you find yourself a hobby.

    Also, the self fulfilling prophecy of „the fediverse is too small, I go to big platform“ will keep the fediverse small.

    Be the change you want to see.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I feel this and some of the other comments in this thread are missing the point. It's not about me and my followers. It's about the news sources and topics that I search for or follow. They simply haven't moved to Mastodon and where notable individuals that I follow have tried, it simply hasn't worked out due to lack of interest. I'm not interested in the fediverse as a topic in itself, I'm interested in the topics and events I want to follow. Something happens and I can find and read and watch clips about it on Twitter. Not so Mastodon.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Bluesky is probably going to capture more of that than Mastodon. But threads is similarly struggling to develop it as well and they have very low barrier for new signups for anyone with a Facebook or Instagram account.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You are missing the point.

    If lucifer was the only one having ice cream and you wanted ice cream, you would have to either go to lucifer or make your own (or ask someone to do it for you).

    This is what the fediverse is about. Regaining control of our media. Your point that it is in any way too lacking to join or invest time into is self defeating as you and many others are needed to get it to that point.

    So I‘m saying either accept that your work is needed to get any non billionaire owned/non corporate platform to work or stop pretending you care about your data.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    You're both right.

    If there aren't people building this alternative, in their free time, for free, then it won't exist. Fair enough. Much credit to them.

    But it looks like @SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world is just an ordinary user with a busy life who wants to consume content in a way that better respects their privacy and autonomy. That is also a fair demand. Not everyone needs to be a producer.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    freedom, activism, technology, diversity

    Boring, boring, boring, boring. This is all "meta-converaation", like this exact thread.

    Where are the musicians, the woodworkers, the DIYers, the athletes, the architects, the photographers, the wannabe chefs, the contrarian educators who do not toe the line of Academia?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Maybe, just maybe, if your followers aren't willing to give up something vile because it's giving them a dopamine hit, they're not adding as much value to your life as you think.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There is absolutely nothing "vile" about quote tweets. When used properly, it is used to enrich a discussion. It's not just because some idiot minority abuses a feature that it should be removed entirely. If well meaning people look at two different systems, and one of them is arbitrarily gutted of useful functionality, guess which one they will choose?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sure, at the surface level of tweeting back and forth, there is nothing vile. But the very act of using the platform funds an agent of chaos that is doing very real harm, and to ignore that because it is inconvenient is at the most charitable interpretation a selfish and callous act. There are other means of discourse, and those with input that is valuable will follow you.

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