Hes gonna get a sweetheart plee deal where hes inelligeble to run for office, payd a big fine, and never sees prison. The US already has displayed is had no idea how to punish people like him. They straight up dropped the chages on Matt Gaetz for diddling children, I have no hope for anything real happening to Trump.

Federal pardons issued by the president apply only to federal offenses; they do not apply to state or local offenses or private civil offenses. Federal pardons also do not apply to cases of impeachment. Pardons for state crimes are handled by governors or a state pardon board.

His best case scenario is he gets elected in '24 and courts are mired in the unprecedented nature of what to do with a commander in chief that is a criminal. You'd think it's simple, but it's really not.

His second best case scenario is that another Republican wins in '24. Even in that case, I have a hard time envisioning how he goes from today where he's like 15 pts ahead but his party acquiesces because of that even though they hate his fucking guts, and he also somehow loses the primary and someone who has enough tolerance for him and the political fallout from a pardon actually goes through with it.

And then there's the problem that even if he's pardoned from the federal crimes, it doesn't extend to the state crimes.

Right now, the likely and not optimal scenario is that he's a very obese nearly 80 year old incontinent man who hasn't seen exercise or vegetable in decades has been mainlining diet coke and mcdonalds the entire time. There is a likelihood that he doesn't see consequence because he doesn't make it that far. This is also why I wouldn't be very worried about '28.

Outside of that, there are public recordings with him virtually confessing to every one of these crimes. Hell, half of them were on TV. So, although I won't be surprised if he somehow rides off into the sunset, it seems unlikely. But anyway, his actual chance at multiple pardons are basically 0.

He won't be pardoned of the Georgia charges. Not a federal court.

I don't agree with the guy who posted that but I kind of think the US government does. I think Trumps gonna get a sweetheart plea deal because theyre either afraid of his supporters or one of his supporters.

whoa, i just said be careful, not let him off scott free.

but sometimes the social consequences of a legal sytem designed for normal people can become inflammatory when cult leaders get involved. (citation deliberatly withheld - likely apocryphal anyway

all i mean is, if you can find a way to achieve what you want from the punishment, but minimize or otherwise control those risks , it'd be a good idea.

true, i dont know anyting about the USA politics.
Would the criminal conviction block politcal office for life?

I'd advise against crucifiction though.

tbf - i dont think it was really youth he needed, it was probably as much the combination of lingering ww1 debt and the wall st crash .

Hopefully theres been stock market crashes recently that people are a bit more resilient and dont get so suggestible.

Trump has never written a book. He paid other people to write books and slap his name on the cover. I doubt he’s even read the books he claims to have written.

He didn't write shit, he dictated it to Hess. And it is a rambling mess.

If Trump decided to dictate a book to Guilani in jail it would probably have a lot in common with Mein Kampf.