▲ 224 ▼ Jamie Lee Curtis Shouldn't Have To Apologize For Calling The MCU 'Bad' (kotaku.com) submitted 2 years ago by mox@lemmy.sdf.org to c/movies@lemmy.world 46 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -18 points 2 years ago (4 children) Tony Stark is a war profiteer and terrorist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Toribor@corndog.social 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yes, good job. Now tell me... Do the movies frame this as a good thing? Or... maybe... the whole point of his entire ten year character arc is that he learns the error of his ways? He changes from a selfish jingoistic narcissist into a compassionate leader and mentor who eventually sacrifices himself to save others. Maybe one day you'll have some character growth too and watch the second half of a movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago Tony Stark was literally designed to be the worst person Stan Lee could imagine. Because they wanted to see how such a character could manifest as super hero anyway. I think he succeeded. permalink fedilink source parent [+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -10 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, he remains an asshole that tries to solve the world problems with violence and vigilantism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Toribor@corndog.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, if comics were real we all know Gotham would be better off if Bruce Wayne would focus on philanthropy instead of dressing up like a bat but no one would make a movie about that because it would be boring. Sounds like comic book movies aren't your thing but generally when your story introduces problems like a purple alien guy with a genocide glove the right answer actually is to put on a robot suit and shoot lasers at em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, I think the message was that when Stark finally killed himself, the world was a better place. I was am a big fan of watchmen. This genre doesn't need to celebrate terrorists. The comedian was condemned. Hell, X-men was great as an allegory for gay people defending themselves. MCU was just terrible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So he is Hamas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] delirious_owl@discuss.online -1 points 2 years ago Russia, Hamas, Israel, or US. Take your pick. They're all blatantly committing war crimes in 2023-2024 permalink fedilink source parent [–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 8 points 2 years ago Tony Stark is a fictional character that can't commit war crimes because he isn't real... Get your head checked 🤡 permalink fedilink source parent [–] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago #defundTonyStark permalink fedilink source parent [+] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Toribor@corndog.social 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Yes, good job. Now tell me... Do the movies frame this as a good thing? Or... maybe... the whole point of his entire ten year character arc is that he learns the error of his ways? He changes from a selfish jingoistic narcissist into a compassionate leader and mentor who eventually sacrifices himself to save others. Maybe one day you'll have some character growth too and watch the second half of a movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago Tony Stark was literally designed to be the worst person Stan Lee could imagine. Because they wanted to see how such a character could manifest as super hero anyway. I think he succeeded. permalink fedilink source parent [+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -10 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, he remains an asshole that tries to solve the world problems with violence and vigilantism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Toribor@corndog.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, if comics were real we all know Gotham would be better off if Bruce Wayne would focus on philanthropy instead of dressing up like a bat but no one would make a movie about that because it would be boring. Sounds like comic book movies aren't your thing but generally when your story introduces problems like a purple alien guy with a genocide glove the right answer actually is to put on a robot suit and shoot lasers at em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, I think the message was that when Stark finally killed himself, the world was a better place. I was am a big fan of watchmen. This genre doesn't need to celebrate terrorists. The comedian was condemned. Hell, X-men was great as an allegory for gay people defending themselves. MCU was just terrible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So he is Hamas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] delirious_owl@discuss.online -1 points 2 years ago Russia, Hamas, Israel, or US. Take your pick. They're all blatantly committing war crimes in 2023-2024 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago Tony Stark was literally designed to be the worst person Stan Lee could imagine. Because they wanted to see how such a character could manifest as super hero anyway. I think he succeeded. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -10 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, he remains an asshole that tries to solve the world problems with violence and vigilantism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Toribor@corndog.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, if comics were real we all know Gotham would be better off if Bruce Wayne would focus on philanthropy instead of dressing up like a bat but no one would make a movie about that because it would be boring. Sounds like comic book movies aren't your thing but generally when your story introduces problems like a purple alien guy with a genocide glove the right answer actually is to put on a robot suit and shoot lasers at em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, I think the message was that when Stark finally killed himself, the world was a better place. I was am a big fan of watchmen. This genre doesn't need to celebrate terrorists. The comedian was condemned. Hell, X-men was great as an allegory for gay people defending themselves. MCU was just terrible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So he is Hamas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] delirious_owl@discuss.online -1 points 2 years ago Russia, Hamas, Israel, or US. Take your pick. They're all blatantly committing war crimes in 2023-2024 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Toribor@corndog.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, if comics were real we all know Gotham would be better off if Bruce Wayne would focus on philanthropy instead of dressing up like a bat but no one would make a movie about that because it would be boring. Sounds like comic book movies aren't your thing but generally when your story introduces problems like a purple alien guy with a genocide glove the right answer actually is to put on a robot suit and shoot lasers at em. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, I think the message was that when Stark finally killed himself, the world was a better place. I was am a big fan of watchmen. This genre doesn't need to celebrate terrorists. The comedian was condemned. Hell, X-men was great as an allegory for gay people defending themselves. MCU was just terrible. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nah, I think the message was that when Stark finally killed himself, the world was a better place. I was am a big fan of watchmen. This genre doesn't need to celebrate terrorists. The comedian was condemned. Hell, X-men was great as an allegory for gay people defending themselves. MCU was just terrible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So he is Hamas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] delirious_owl@discuss.online -1 points 2 years ago Russia, Hamas, Israel, or US. Take your pick. They're all blatantly committing war crimes in 2023-2024 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online -1 points 2 years ago Russia, Hamas, Israel, or US. Take your pick. They're all blatantly committing war crimes in 2023-2024 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 8 points 2 years ago Tony Stark is a fictional character that can't commit war crimes because he isn't real... Get your head checked 🤡 permalink fedilink source parent