▲ 432 ▼ We Just Lived Through Two of the Hottest Days Ever. Does Anyone Care? (www.rollingstone.com) submitted 2 years ago by silence7@slrpnk.net [M] to c/climate@slrpnk.net 66 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago (9 children) Stupid rolling stone. It's SO FAR. Fixed permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 10 points 2 years ago (5 children) As in "We haven't cut emissions to zero yet." We can, and will. It's a question of whether we do it quickly enough to preserve a civilization-supporting climate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] original_reader@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Likely not. The next years will be hell. Then, after 10 years or so - maybe sooner -, 2024 will be remembered as one of the more pleasant years with still bearable temperatures and comparably few catastrophes. We even still had affordable coffee and olive oil. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) We should probably start with reducing the rate of increase first. Then talk about reducing emissions per year. As for zero emissions, I fail to see how we have a civilization of any sort without some emissions. Maybe that's the point. Was "Net Zero" a hidden word for collapse all along? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Emissions have been falling in the US and EU since ~2005 or so, and look to be about to start falling in China, which means that they'll be falling worldwide after this year. But...they'll likely be falling slowly, rather than rapidly, which is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hobovision@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's a really hopeful reading of that chart. What I see in that chart is that even a year or two of falling emissions could quickly be wiped away. Just look at 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago It's a bit more than that; there are policies in place which make Chinese emissions likely to slowly drop from here on out permalink fedilink source parent [–] rickdg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you just homer simpsoned a headline? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 2 years ago Yes. But it makes the second sentence make more sense. And for the answer, the Jurassic Park "see, nobody cares" meme would fit in well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Like I understand what they are trying to say, but yeah really ticks me off when people say "ever" when they mean "yet" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 10 points 2 years ago (5 children) As in "We haven't cut emissions to zero yet." We can, and will. It's a question of whether we do it quickly enough to preserve a civilization-supporting climate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] original_reader@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Likely not. The next years will be hell. Then, after 10 years or so - maybe sooner -, 2024 will be remembered as one of the more pleasant years with still bearable temperatures and comparably few catastrophes. We even still had affordable coffee and olive oil. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) We should probably start with reducing the rate of increase first. Then talk about reducing emissions per year. As for zero emissions, I fail to see how we have a civilization of any sort without some emissions. Maybe that's the point. Was "Net Zero" a hidden word for collapse all along? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Emissions have been falling in the US and EU since ~2005 or so, and look to be about to start falling in China, which means that they'll be falling worldwide after this year. But...they'll likely be falling slowly, rather than rapidly, which is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hobovision@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's a really hopeful reading of that chart. What I see in that chart is that even a year or two of falling emissions could quickly be wiped away. Just look at 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago It's a bit more than that; there are policies in place which make Chinese emissions likely to slowly drop from here on out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Likely not. The next years will be hell. Then, after 10 years or so - maybe sooner -, 2024 will be remembered as one of the more pleasant years with still bearable temperatures and comparably few catastrophes. We even still had affordable coffee and olive oil. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) We should probably start with reducing the rate of increase first. Then talk about reducing emissions per year. As for zero emissions, I fail to see how we have a civilization of any sort without some emissions. Maybe that's the point. Was "Net Zero" a hidden word for collapse all along? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Emissions have been falling in the US and EU since ~2005 or so, and look to be about to start falling in China, which means that they'll be falling worldwide after this year. But...they'll likely be falling slowly, rather than rapidly, which is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hobovision@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's a really hopeful reading of that chart. What I see in that chart is that even a year or two of falling emissions could quickly be wiped away. Just look at 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago It's a bit more than that; there are policies in place which make Chinese emissions likely to slowly drop from here on out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Emissions have been falling in the US and EU since ~2005 or so, and look to be about to start falling in China, which means that they'll be falling worldwide after this year. But...they'll likely be falling slowly, rather than rapidly, which is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hobovision@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's a really hopeful reading of that chart. What I see in that chart is that even a year or two of falling emissions could quickly be wiped away. Just look at 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago It's a bit more than that; there are policies in place which make Chinese emissions likely to slowly drop from here on out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That's a really hopeful reading of that chart. What I see in that chart is that even a year or two of falling emissions could quickly be wiped away. Just look at 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago It's a bit more than that; there are policies in place which make Chinese emissions likely to slowly drop from here on out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago It's a bit more than that; there are policies in place which make Chinese emissions likely to slowly drop from here on out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you just homer simpsoned a headline? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 2 years ago Yes. But it makes the second sentence make more sense. And for the answer, the Jurassic Park "see, nobody cares" meme would fit in well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 2 years ago Yes. But it makes the second sentence make more sense. And for the answer, the Jurassic Park "see, nobody cares" meme would fit in well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Like I understand what they are trying to say, but yeah really ticks me off when people say "ever" when they mean "yet" permalink fedilink source parent