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TracingWoodgrains launches a defense of Manifest's controversial reputation, all without betraying a basic understanding of what the word "controversial" means. (forum.effectivealtruism.org)
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...And if it weren't for that one joke by Hannibal, Bill Cosby would be very uncontroversial.

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[–] 8 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Deep into that diatribe:

Some people's moral intuitions are that nonexistence is preferable to, or not obviously worse than, existence in a less-than-ideal setting. I wholly reject this intuition, and looking at the record of the persistence of life in the face of adversity, belong to a heritage of those who have, time and time again, rejected it. Life is Good.

What a disgustingly privileged thing to say. People have survived in shitty situations so therefore more children in poverty is axiomatically good? This guy deserves poverty. (edit: maybe that's a bit too far but I fucking hate this guy)

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    In this case, the context is definitely humans being born on earth. The entire diatribe I responded to can be summed up as "People have all kinds of ethical and moral objections to surrogacy. In this post, I dismiss all of those without an argument, and instead assign positive moral value to everything that increases the number of lives, including surrogacy." It's probably one of the dumbest things I read this week.

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