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I'm just saying it wasn't the massacre of wholesome pro democracy protesters like every lib assumes. There were actual skirmishes outside the square but there were people actually murdering police and shit. There are more than enough sources in this thread for you to do your own investigation. As Mao said, no investigation, no right to speak.
Alright, well I read the ones linked above because they're credible enough to dismiss the massacre in Tiananmen square, but they're also saying things like residents were trying to stop the transport of troops and weapons into the square and that there definitely was a massacre in the surrounding area, just not in the square we use to reference it.
Is that a good enough investigation, or do you want to point me to a more credible source that actually explains what you think happened?
They fucking burned people alive dude that is why the military went in.
Cool, so the unruly mob was burning cops/military alive, and that's why they needed to send in the military.
try THAT in a small town
You're not very good at this
Alright, then who was being burned alive? Because I was under the impression it was the military/police. Nakoichi is saying that they burned people alive and that's why the military was sent in, but it was the military being burned alive, meaning they were already there.
Yeah I'll definitely waste my time explaining shit to someone being obtuse in order not to concede a point, that sounds like fun
Is burning a cop alive not a valid reason to quickly end the protest? Just trying to gauge what your stance is on immolation.
It is, but when hundreds end up dead as a result you can still be a little critical about it.
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To clear up some confusion, the soldiers and police who were burned and lynched at Muxidi were unarmed. The government responded on June 3-4 with an armed crackdown. The armed crackdown also encountered firebombs, but @[email protected] was referring to the earlier attacks at Muxidi.
Correct.
China did not have specialized riot police at the time, it flatout wasn't ever necessary. The PLA was the only force existing with the manpower and equipment to handle the situation.