▲ 188 ▼ YouTube is dedicated to making itself worse; destroys SponsorBlock with ad injection changes (www.youtube.com) submitted 2 years ago by Powderhorn@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org 74 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] smeg@feddit.uk 44 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Alice@beehaw.org 29 points 2 years ago (2 children) This sucks for so many. People use timestamps for content warnings or to help viewers avoid spoilers. Commenters use timestamps when talking about the content of the video. It's insane to change this once it's so ingrained in how people use the website. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's also how content creators literally create chapters: put the time codes into the video description That's a native feature of the platform permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alice@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Oh shit, I didn't even think about that. What the hell. permalink fedilink source parent [+] smeg@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jherazob@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) You assume they give a fuck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd imagine YouTube subtracts the ad length from posted timestamps when clicking a link containing one. But we are taking about Google, soooooo... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the cat and mouse game, the cat can adjust tactics but the mice eventually figure out an alternative route. I'm sure they will find a way with this. Either that or a lot of people will just stop watching YouTube, I'd imagine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) A truly shocking number of people don't use any form of adblock. I doubt that driving off the adblock users will have a significant effect on viewership (and even if it does, why would Google care, it's not like we're making them money). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago There's also plenty of people that do use adblock today, and would just put up with ads if it stopped working. So the actual number of people that would simply stop using YouTube altogether is lower than the number of people that use adblock today. And from YouTube's perspective, those people aren't contributing revenue anyways, and all they get is a little bit of usage data. Easy trade. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago Yup. Much the same suit as the Reddit migration, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 point 2 years ago Unless a random number of ads are injected into the video that changes every time it's viewed... Which is how they already work aside from being directly part of the video stream. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago* It will end up being like FreeVee on Prime for anyone who's ever watched a movie or anything on there. They straight up randomly just inject ads in at random times, often not even during scene breaks. Characters are sometimes mid-sentence... Oh, and we're back to the volume of the ads being 2x louder than the movie itself because I guess that law Congress passed way back in the day only applied to cable and broadcast TV. It makes it nearly unwatchable. So get ready for that experience. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alice@beehaw.org 29 points 2 years ago (2 children) This sucks for so many. People use timestamps for content warnings or to help viewers avoid spoilers. Commenters use timestamps when talking about the content of the video. It's insane to change this once it's so ingrained in how people use the website. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's also how content creators literally create chapters: put the time codes into the video description That's a native feature of the platform permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alice@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Oh shit, I didn't even think about that. What the hell. permalink fedilink source parent [+] smeg@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jherazob@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) You assume they give a fuck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's also how content creators literally create chapters: put the time codes into the video description That's a native feature of the platform permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alice@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Oh shit, I didn't even think about that. What the hell. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alice@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Oh shit, I didn't even think about that. What the hell. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] smeg@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jherazob@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) You assume they give a fuck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) You assume they give a fuck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd imagine YouTube subtracts the ad length from posted timestamps when clicking a link containing one. But we are taking about Google, soooooo... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the cat and mouse game, the cat can adjust tactics but the mice eventually figure out an alternative route. I'm sure they will find a way with this. Either that or a lot of people will just stop watching YouTube, I'd imagine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) A truly shocking number of people don't use any form of adblock. I doubt that driving off the adblock users will have a significant effect on viewership (and even if it does, why would Google care, it's not like we're making them money). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago There's also plenty of people that do use adblock today, and would just put up with ads if it stopped working. So the actual number of people that would simply stop using YouTube altogether is lower than the number of people that use adblock today. And from YouTube's perspective, those people aren't contributing revenue anyways, and all they get is a little bit of usage data. Easy trade. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago Yup. Much the same suit as the Reddit migration, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 point 2 years ago Unless a random number of ads are injected into the video that changes every time it's viewed... Which is how they already work aside from being directly part of the video stream. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] smeg@feddit.uk 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the cat and mouse game, the cat can adjust tactics but the mice eventually figure out an alternative route. I'm sure they will find a way with this. Either that or a lot of people will just stop watching YouTube, I'd imagine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) A truly shocking number of people don't use any form of adblock. I doubt that driving off the adblock users will have a significant effect on viewership (and even if it does, why would Google care, it's not like we're making them money). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago There's also plenty of people that do use adblock today, and would just put up with ads if it stopped working. So the actual number of people that would simply stop using YouTube altogether is lower than the number of people that use adblock today. And from YouTube's perspective, those people aren't contributing revenue anyways, and all they get is a little bit of usage data. Easy trade. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago Yup. Much the same suit as the Reddit migration, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 point 2 years ago Unless a random number of ads are injected into the video that changes every time it's viewed... Which is how they already work aside from being directly part of the video stream. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the cat and mouse game, the cat can adjust tactics but the mice eventually figure out an alternative route. I'm sure they will find a way with this. Either that or a lot of people will just stop watching YouTube, I'd imagine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) A truly shocking number of people don't use any form of adblock. I doubt that driving off the adblock users will have a significant effect on viewership (and even if it does, why would Google care, it's not like we're making them money). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago There's also plenty of people that do use adblock today, and would just put up with ads if it stopped working. So the actual number of people that would simply stop using YouTube altogether is lower than the number of people that use adblock today. And from YouTube's perspective, those people aren't contributing revenue anyways, and all they get is a little bit of usage data. Easy trade. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago Yup. Much the same suit as the Reddit migration, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) A truly shocking number of people don't use any form of adblock. I doubt that driving off the adblock users will have a significant effect on viewership (and even if it does, why would Google care, it's not like we're making them money). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago There's also plenty of people that do use adblock today, and would just put up with ads if it stopped working. So the actual number of people that would simply stop using YouTube altogether is lower than the number of people that use adblock today. And from YouTube's perspective, those people aren't contributing revenue anyways, and all they get is a little bit of usage data. Easy trade. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago Yup. Much the same suit as the Reddit migration, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago There's also plenty of people that do use adblock today, and would just put up with ads if it stopped working. So the actual number of people that would simply stop using YouTube altogether is lower than the number of people that use adblock today. And from YouTube's perspective, those people aren't contributing revenue anyways, and all they get is a little bit of usage data. Easy trade. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago Yup. Much the same suit as the Reddit migration, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 point 2 years ago Unless a random number of ads are injected into the video that changes every time it's viewed... Which is how they already work aside from being directly part of the video stream. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago* It will end up being like FreeVee on Prime for anyone who's ever watched a movie or anything on there. They straight up randomly just inject ads in at random times, often not even during scene breaks. Characters are sometimes mid-sentence... Oh, and we're back to the volume of the ads being 2x louder than the movie itself because I guess that law Congress passed way back in the day only applied to cable and broadcast TV. It makes it nearly unwatchable. So get ready for that experience. permalink fedilink source parent