Not a good look for Mastodon - what can be done to automate the removal of CSAM?

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[–] 28 points 3 years ago (74 children)

4.1 Illustrated and Computer-Generated CSAM

Stopped reading.

Child abuse laws "exclude anime" for the same reason animal cruelty laws "exclude lettuce." Drawings are not children.

Drawings are not real.

Half the goddamn point of saying CSAM instead of CP is to make clear that Bart Simpson doesn't count. Bart Simpson is not real. It is fundamentally impossible to violate Bart Simpson's rights, because he doesn't fucking exist. There is nothing to protect him from. He cannot be harmed. He is imaginary.

This cannot be a controversial statement. Anyone who can't distinguish fiction from real life has brain problems.

You can't rape someone in MS Paint. Songs about murder don't leave a body. If you write about robbing Fort Knox, the gold is still there. We're not about to arrest Mads Mikkelsen for eating people. It did not happen. It was not real.

If you still want to get mad at people for jerking off to the wrong fantasies, that is an entirely different problem from photographs of child rape.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oh, wait, Japanese in the other comment, now I get it. This conversation is a about AI Loli porn.

    Pfft, of course, that's why no one is saying the words they mean, because it suddenly becomes much harder to take the stance since hatred towards Loli Porn is not universal.

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  • I mean, I think it's disgusting, but I don't think it should be illegal. I feel the same way about cigarettes, 2 girls 1 cup, and profane language. It's absolutely not for me, but that shouldn't make it illegal.

    As long as there's no victim, knock yourself out with whatever disgusting, weird stuff you're into.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You should keep reading then, because they cover that later.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    What does that even mean?

    There's nothing to "cover." They're talking about illustrations of bad things, alongside actual photographic evidence of actual bad things actually happening. Nothing can excuse that.

    No shit they are also discussing actual CSAM alongside... drawings. That is the problem. That's what they did wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (67 children)

    Okay, thanks for the clarification

    Everyone except you still very much includes drawn & AI pornographic depictions of children within the basket of problematic content that should get filtered out of federated instances so thank you very much but I'm not sure your point changed anything.

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