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[+] 159 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)
  • [โ€“] 69 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    As a medical device engineer working in spine - absolutely chiropractors.

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  • [โ€“] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I was not familiar with this term and had to look it up. From my brief search, it also seems like snake oil, and I don't know why someone would not go to a real physical therapist instead.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not saying anything about the source, but https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/osteopathic-medicine

    I absolutely had a PT after a car accident that used spinal manipulation and it seemed to help. She also had me using elastic bands for stretching and hydrotherapy, so there's that

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    the difference (so i'm told) is that DOs are trained to take a more holistic, full-body approach to diagnostics and treatment rather than only focusing on one set of symptoms/treatment. They also do their residencies and internships alongside MDs.

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  • It depends on the country. Everywhere but the US, I believe, osteopaths are witch doctors on the same level as chiropractors. In the US, they were originally like that, but their professional organization basically pushed it into being a real medical degree.

    Now they go to the same length schooling as MD's, and take the same exams as far as I know.

    The core of the whole discipline, osteopathy, is a pseudoscience, though. While they are usually competent doctors they still have that core of pseudoscience. They like to market themselves as more "holistic", but that's usually a good dogwhistle term to let you know information not supported by science is going to follow. They bring up that they are the same as MDs, but with additional training in osteopathy, but that can't be true because the schooling is the same length, so to fit in the pseudoscience, they get less science.

    The real reason why we have DO's is that we don't have capacity in our country to educate enough MDs, so we have this weird parallel system.

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  • [โ€“] -5 points 2 years ago

    A chiropractor ๐Ÿ’ฏ fixed my throwing arm that I had been dealing with for over 10 years. Made me an absolute believer. That said, Iโ€™ve been to two different chiropractors and they were wildly different in everything they did. Dr Lopeig in Great Falls, Virginia is an absolute wizard.

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  • [โ€“] 24 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I sometimes come across influencers pushing chrio "treatments" on pets or newborns, saying it makes them "breathe better" or be "more energetic"

    It's infuriating

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  • [โ€“] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Problem is, people go to chiropractor when they don't have access to real doctor, problem either the money or/and most doctors in your city/state can't/refuse do anything about your problem, desperation is one hell of a stimulus

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  • [+] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The thing is, placebos can actually be pretty effective. Hell, they're effective even if you know they're a placebo. And the more elaborate and similar to what you think would be involved in curing you, the more effective. So people going to chiropractors might actually be getting real results even if the things they're doing are junk.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I can somewhat understand this. I have IBS, and most people with a bowel issue will tell you that IBS is basically your doctor saying ยฏโ \โ _โ (โ ใƒ„โ )โ _โ /โ ยฏ

    Instead of getting help from your doctor, you go online and you hear about people finding relief through taking weird supplements, or eating only rice, or taking pre and probiotics of varying types. None of it has any proof, but it's better to try something than to struggle - and sometimes you're lucky or you find some short-lived relief.

    The difference is that there often isn't evidence for these things working, whereas there is plenty of evidence out there that says that chiropractors are doing legitimately dangerous practices to your body. The difference is that someone is trying to make a profit from this lack of knowledge.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Iโ€™ve had loads of advice like that for IBS, but no amount of FODMAP or probiotics actually makes a difference, because my IBS is stress-triggered. My doctor helped by advising me to avoid stressful situations, which is hard when you move to another country.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    "Only rice" is an elimination diet for allergies that I should have tried decades ago, but dumbass mainstream medicine never recommended.

    I found out there are slow allergies mediated by immunoglobulin G that you can't detect while eating, so I did a blood test. Found some strong positives (milks, eggs), and then through elimination found out false negatives that I also can't eat (peanut, soy), and, thanks to the doctor whom I went out of my way to see about IgG, some that are typically harmful to those with IBS that I also need to avoid (gluten, sunflower oil, rapeseed oil). Supplemental protective agents Aloe barbadensis, xyloglucan, and butyrate also help. Getting really healthy now - no more IBS if I don't eat mistakes.

    The mainstream doctors say that's all nonsense and that I'm a hypochondriac who perceives having gotten better for no reason.

    My previous successful departure from the mainstream was making my gallbladder go from "full of stones" to "empty except a thin layer of sediment on the bottom" as seen by ultrasound. Now that there's proof, the doctors can't dismiss that. https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-good-diet-considerations-for-Gallstone-sufferers/answers/107344862

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Holland and Barrett sell supplements. Some people do need to take a vitamin d tablet a day. I do but I've got a prescription for a vitamin d and calcium tablet because I've been low for years.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I work 3rd shift, so I take Vitamin D because the sun is my nemesis.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Be careful with vitamin D though. That is one of the very very few vitamins that you can actually take too much of because it's fat soluble, not water soluble, so excessive vitamin D will build up in your fat cells rather than just getting peed out. It's called vitamin D toxicity (VDT) and it can have some unpleasant neurological effects among other things.

    So it's probably a good idea to get your levels checked anyways just to make sure you're taking the right amount if you need it.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 2 years ago

    Funny, every primary care provider in my country recommends you take Vitamin D, usually pretty huge amounts

    Could be because we get barely any sunshine between like October and February. I'm talking 6 hour days, and even those mostly cloudy.

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