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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well there’s agile and then there’s agile…

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

What percentage of places that claim to be agile have even a single decision maker that has read the agile manifesto?

I'm going to say, generously, 3%.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I like to tell new hires : "we claim to do agile but we really don't... Like everybody else"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If your method of development requires reading a manifesto go fuck yourself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I actually don't think I disagree with you in principle. I had the chance to talk shop with Kent Beck, and honestly, I don't think he would either.

Honestly, I can sum it up pretty succinctly:

"Use some common fucking sense"

I don't think you should HAVE to read that. But, I'm routinely disappointed.

So, I love the Agile Manifesto, because instead of saying "Use your fucking head" to my managers who claim to be agile, I can much more diplomatically say "What does the agile manifesto say about that?"