▲ 508 ▼ Chinese scientists develop cure for diabetes, insulin patient becomes medicine-free in just 3 months (m.economictimes.com) submitted 2 years ago by naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 132 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (7 children) What sounds sus about it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-024-00662-3 I think sinophobia may have gotten the best of you. The study is published in Nature, definitely not a Chinese journal (if this is important to you). Which means the scientists, and institutions are readily accessible, and you can read the paper describing how it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago* Not OP but thanks for sharing a good link. Technically it is not a cure for type 2. But a repair to further damage caused by a life of type 2. The type 2 diabetic is still insulin resistant after this treatment. It is just some of the harm that resistance dose to their islet cells. Makeing them partly mimic type 1 diabetes with reduced insulin production. Can be rebuilt with stem cells. The patient will still need to eat and manage carbs as a well treated type 2 must. To avoid having issues. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago CHYNAHH! permalink fedilink source parent [–] greentreerainfire@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) As a lay-person, it seems kind of light on details and a bit fanciful. The article states they created pancreatic islet seed cells, but fails to link how exactly this cures diabetes. (I’m assuming these cells create the insulin.) Another point is this seems to fly in t he face of what we’ve been told for decades, that diabetes can now be cured and not just managed. (I personally don’t have a problem with this, everything is impossible until it becomes possible.) The biggest issue I see is that this cured one person. Diabetes is a fairly common condition, they shouldn’t have had a problem getting more participants in a study. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago I believe that it states somewhere that it was a case study or a proof of concept. Which is a common approach to interventions (medical or otherwise) that are difficult, expensive, and time consuming. If you can find a way to get it to work then maybe it's worth expanding and finding more efficient/effective ways of implementing the intervention. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Islet cells are the insulin secreting cells in the pancreas. This literally sounds like the general idea is that if you don't have sufficient insulin production to cover the load your body is under, solving it by engineering new islet cells from your own tissues (so as to avoid rejection) and then implanting them. Basically, if your pancreas isn't strong enough to do the job, then just add more pancreas until it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-024-00662-3 I think sinophobia may have gotten the best of you. The study is published in Nature, definitely not a Chinese journal (if this is important to you). Which means the scientists, and institutions are readily accessible, and you can read the paper describing how it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago* Not OP but thanks for sharing a good link. Technically it is not a cure for type 2. But a repair to further damage caused by a life of type 2. The type 2 diabetic is still insulin resistant after this treatment. It is just some of the harm that resistance dose to their islet cells. Makeing them partly mimic type 1 diabetes with reduced insulin production. Can be rebuilt with stem cells. The patient will still need to eat and manage carbs as a well treated type 2 must. To avoid having issues. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago CHYNAHH! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-024-00662-3 I think sinophobia may have gotten the best of you. The study is published in Nature, definitely not a Chinese journal (if this is important to you). Which means the scientists, and institutions are readily accessible, and you can read the paper describing how it works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago* Not OP but thanks for sharing a good link. Technically it is not a cure for type 2. But a repair to further damage caused by a life of type 2. The type 2 diabetic is still insulin resistant after this treatment. It is just some of the harm that resistance dose to their islet cells. Makeing them partly mimic type 1 diabetes with reduced insulin production. Can be rebuilt with stem cells. The patient will still need to eat and manage carbs as a well treated type 2 must. To avoid having issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago* Not OP but thanks for sharing a good link. Technically it is not a cure for type 2. But a repair to further damage caused by a life of type 2. The type 2 diabetic is still insulin resistant after this treatment. It is just some of the harm that resistance dose to their islet cells. Makeing them partly mimic type 1 diabetes with reduced insulin production. Can be rebuilt with stem cells. The patient will still need to eat and manage carbs as a well treated type 2 must. To avoid having issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greentreerainfire@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) As a lay-person, it seems kind of light on details and a bit fanciful. The article states they created pancreatic islet seed cells, but fails to link how exactly this cures diabetes. (I’m assuming these cells create the insulin.) Another point is this seems to fly in t he face of what we’ve been told for decades, that diabetes can now be cured and not just managed. (I personally don’t have a problem with this, everything is impossible until it becomes possible.) The biggest issue I see is that this cured one person. Diabetes is a fairly common condition, they shouldn’t have had a problem getting more participants in a study. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago I believe that it states somewhere that it was a case study or a proof of concept. Which is a common approach to interventions (medical or otherwise) that are difficult, expensive, and time consuming. If you can find a way to get it to work then maybe it's worth expanding and finding more efficient/effective ways of implementing the intervention. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Islet cells are the insulin secreting cells in the pancreas. This literally sounds like the general idea is that if you don't have sufficient insulin production to cover the load your body is under, solving it by engineering new islet cells from your own tissues (so as to avoid rejection) and then implanting them. Basically, if your pancreas isn't strong enough to do the job, then just add more pancreas until it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago I believe that it states somewhere that it was a case study or a proof of concept. Which is a common approach to interventions (medical or otherwise) that are difficult, expensive, and time consuming. If you can find a way to get it to work then maybe it's worth expanding and finding more efficient/effective ways of implementing the intervention. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Islet cells are the insulin secreting cells in the pancreas. This literally sounds like the general idea is that if you don't have sufficient insulin production to cover the load your body is under, solving it by engineering new islet cells from your own tissues (so as to avoid rejection) and then implanting them. Basically, if your pancreas isn't strong enough to do the job, then just add more pancreas until it is. permalink fedilink source parent