▲ 61 ▼ Ubisoft thinks it's okay to delete your games library now apparently (gamerant.com) submitted 3 years ago by Norgur@kbin.social to c/gaming@kbin.social 20 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Ostermac@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just like Steam. Stop simping for big game corp. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nakal@kbin.social 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) Please explain. When did Steam delete a game from your library? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Norgur@kbin.social [S] 11 points 3 years ago Or an account for inactivity permalink fedilink source parent [–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago Probably just the idiotic knee jerk 'all corpos are the same' mentality that has no basis in reality, same for the political variant of the mentality. It's hilarious how one of the better companies in the industry is being compared to one of the garbage fire companies as if they don't have wildly different histories in how they treat their consumers and the platform they run. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tekchip@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) Valve, is a platform. They have little reason to remove games themselves. But they do work with, and comply with, video game corpos doing this horse crap (not to be confused with horse armor which is also still crap). So they're at least complicit. See OP. The core issue is that "buying" on any of the platforms (except GOG) is not buying but leasing for a one time payment. While Gaben is pretty altruistic it's only a matter of time until someone less so is in charge and decides X isn't wanted anymore and then poof because the EULA (also subject to change at any moment) allows it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Norgur@kbin.social [S] 7 points 3 years ago Yeah, but the issue at hand is Ubisoft deleting Accounts thus wiping user's libraries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] There_it_is@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is the key thing now. Apart from places like GOG you don't really 'own' games. You lease a license, that can be revoked. Or in the case of the 'always online or have to connect to whatever server' you get that game until they kill the connect server, even on single player games. Steam is at least decent (for now) at keeping those still yours, but as mentioned all it takes is Gaben to no longer be in charge and it will go away too. Some games still work and just give you that failed to connect, others are just dead and can't be played ever again. Some certainly still work after severs shut down but others are dead. The days of decade plus old games still working is starting to fade away and it sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago Minor point but its all technically down on the developers. You aren't forced to use Steam DRM and several games don't use it at all. For instance Witcher 3 on steam is DRM free and it functions basically as it does on GOG. Where you can just move the game to wherever and launch it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nakal@kbin.social 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) Please explain. When did Steam delete a game from your library? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Norgur@kbin.social [S] 11 points 3 years ago Or an account for inactivity permalink fedilink source parent [–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago Probably just the idiotic knee jerk 'all corpos are the same' mentality that has no basis in reality, same for the political variant of the mentality. It's hilarious how one of the better companies in the industry is being compared to one of the garbage fire companies as if they don't have wildly different histories in how they treat their consumers and the platform they run. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tekchip@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) Valve, is a platform. They have little reason to remove games themselves. But they do work with, and comply with, video game corpos doing this horse crap (not to be confused with horse armor which is also still crap). So they're at least complicit. See OP. The core issue is that "buying" on any of the platforms (except GOG) is not buying but leasing for a one time payment. While Gaben is pretty altruistic it's only a matter of time until someone less so is in charge and decides X isn't wanted anymore and then poof because the EULA (also subject to change at any moment) allows it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Norgur@kbin.social [S] 7 points 3 years ago Yeah, but the issue at hand is Ubisoft deleting Accounts thus wiping user's libraries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] There_it_is@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is the key thing now. Apart from places like GOG you don't really 'own' games. You lease a license, that can be revoked. Or in the case of the 'always online or have to connect to whatever server' you get that game until they kill the connect server, even on single player games. Steam is at least decent (for now) at keeping those still yours, but as mentioned all it takes is Gaben to no longer be in charge and it will go away too. Some games still work and just give you that failed to connect, others are just dead and can't be played ever again. Some certainly still work after severs shut down but others are dead. The days of decade plus old games still working is starting to fade away and it sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago Minor point but its all technically down on the developers. You aren't forced to use Steam DRM and several games don't use it at all. For instance Witcher 3 on steam is DRM free and it functions basically as it does on GOG. Where you can just move the game to wherever and launch it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Norgur@kbin.social [S] 11 points 3 years ago Or an account for inactivity permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago Probably just the idiotic knee jerk 'all corpos are the same' mentality that has no basis in reality, same for the political variant of the mentality. It's hilarious how one of the better companies in the industry is being compared to one of the garbage fire companies as if they don't have wildly different histories in how they treat their consumers and the platform they run. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tekchip@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) Valve, is a platform. They have little reason to remove games themselves. But they do work with, and comply with, video game corpos doing this horse crap (not to be confused with horse armor which is also still crap). So they're at least complicit. See OP. The core issue is that "buying" on any of the platforms (except GOG) is not buying but leasing for a one time payment. While Gaben is pretty altruistic it's only a matter of time until someone less so is in charge and decides X isn't wanted anymore and then poof because the EULA (also subject to change at any moment) allows it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Norgur@kbin.social [S] 7 points 3 years ago Yeah, but the issue at hand is Ubisoft deleting Accounts thus wiping user's libraries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] There_it_is@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is the key thing now. Apart from places like GOG you don't really 'own' games. You lease a license, that can be revoked. Or in the case of the 'always online or have to connect to whatever server' you get that game until they kill the connect server, even on single player games. Steam is at least decent (for now) at keeping those still yours, but as mentioned all it takes is Gaben to no longer be in charge and it will go away too. Some games still work and just give you that failed to connect, others are just dead and can't be played ever again. Some certainly still work after severs shut down but others are dead. The days of decade plus old games still working is starting to fade away and it sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago Minor point but its all technically down on the developers. You aren't forced to use Steam DRM and several games don't use it at all. For instance Witcher 3 on steam is DRM free and it functions basically as it does on GOG. Where you can just move the game to wherever and launch it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Norgur@kbin.social [S] 7 points 3 years ago Yeah, but the issue at hand is Ubisoft deleting Accounts thus wiping user's libraries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] There_it_is@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is the key thing now. Apart from places like GOG you don't really 'own' games. You lease a license, that can be revoked. Or in the case of the 'always online or have to connect to whatever server' you get that game until they kill the connect server, even on single player games. Steam is at least decent (for now) at keeping those still yours, but as mentioned all it takes is Gaben to no longer be in charge and it will go away too. Some games still work and just give you that failed to connect, others are just dead and can't be played ever again. Some certainly still work after severs shut down but others are dead. The days of decade plus old games still working is starting to fade away and it sucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago Minor point but its all technically down on the developers. You aren't forced to use Steam DRM and several games don't use it at all. For instance Witcher 3 on steam is DRM free and it functions basically as it does on GOG. Where you can just move the game to wherever and launch it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago Minor point but its all technically down on the developers. You aren't forced to use Steam DRM and several games don't use it at all. For instance Witcher 3 on steam is DRM free and it functions basically as it does on GOG. Where you can just move the game to wherever and launch it. permalink fedilink source parent