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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (46 children)

Yeah that's toothless. They decided there is no particular way to age a cartoon, they could be from another planet that simply seem younger but are in actuality older.

It's bunk, let them draw or generate whatever they want, totally fictional events and people are fair game and quite honestly I'd Rather they stay active doing that then get active actually abusing children.

Outlaw shibari and I guarantee you'd have multiple serial killers btk-ing some unlucky souls.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago (39 children)

Exactly. If you can't name a victim, it shouldn't be illegal.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

My main issue with generation is the ability of making it close enough to reality. Even with the more realistic art stuff, some outright referenced or even traced CSAM. The other issue is the lack of easy differentiation between reality and fiction, and it muddies the water. "I swear officer, I thought it was AI" would become the new "I swear officer, she said she was 18".

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[–] MDKAOD@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think the challenge with Generative AI CSAM is the question of where did training data originate? There has to be some questionable data there.

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[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 years ago

That would mean you need to enforce the law for whoever built the model. If the original creator has 100TB of cheese pizza, then they should be the one who gets arrested.

Otherwise you're busting random customers at a pizza shop for possession of the meth the cook smoked before his shift.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Would Lisa Simpson be 8 years old, or 43 because the Simpsons started in 1989?

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I thought cartoons/illustrations of that nature were only illegal in the UK (Coroners and Justices Act 2008) and Switzerland. TIL about the PROTECT Act.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Several countries prohibit any fictional depictions of child porn, whether drawn, written or otherwise. Wikipedia has an interesting list on that - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_child_pornography

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[–] Rayspekt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder if there is significant migration happening into those countries where csam os legal.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Unlikely. Tourism, on the other hand...

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Most people instead have a trip to a place where underage sex workers are common, one can just have an external hard drive and/or a USB stick for that material which they hide. "An"caps are actively trying to form their own countries, partly to legalize "recordings of crimes" as they like to call them, if not outright to legalize child rape and child sex trafficking.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The thing about the PROTECT Act is that it relies on the Miller test, which has obvious holes, and is like depends on who is reviewing it and stuff. I have heard even the UK law has holes which can be exploited.

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[+] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

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