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[–] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It helps that it's being called "southern chiv" which I presume is either southern chivalry or southern knight.

Harper's also noted that this was published weeks before a presidential election.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Southern chivalry is analogous to Southern hospitality; it is a specific set of manners that reflect the ideals of the region. It was called chivalry before women could vote, after which chivalry was seen as old fashioned and the phrase changed into hospitality.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    This also would have been the time period relatively shortly after the Civil war. The south is currently coming up with excuses to still not treat recently freed slaves very well, the KKK is rising in power and just recently the conservative Democrat party has taken over the south just a year or 2 ago by killing a large portion of the black Republican base and representatives.

    Keeping them down to not risk having to be treated the same is absolutely all the rage in the south despite it causing a massive economic depression. This definitely feels like satire.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I took southern chiv as a reference to a KKK member since they referred to themselves as knights. Or at least something along those lines.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It wasn't. It was a term - frequently sarcastic eventually, as in this cartoon - used to describe the "noble" behaviors of southerners.

    Here's an article from the time on it, talking about how the rumored "southern chivalry" was anything but: https://www.historians.org/teaching-and-learning/teaching-resources-for-historians/sixteen-months-to-sumter/newspaper-index/new-haven-daily-palladium/southern-chivalry

    As someone else.mentioned, a form of it became "southern hospitality" and survived, usually in the complimentary way.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sounds like the "knights of the KKK" might have come from the southern chivalry thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Maybe, but I don't think so, at least not directly. I can't find a source, though.

    I just think the concept of Knights and Arthurian stuff was popular, and they just both came from the same general popular ideas, instead of one coming from the other.

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