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[–] -4 points 2 years ago (15 children)

If so then the wars in Korea, Vietnam, and Chechnya were all genocides.

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  • [+] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)
  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Not just the US. Chechnya was invaded by Russia. German civilians were bombed by the UK and USSR.

    In fact, it's hard to find a large-scale modern war that didn't cause thousands of civilian casualties.

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  • [+] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Are you really suggesting that every asymmetrical war that is conducted successfully is genocide? O.o

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  • [+] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago*

    A nation taking lots of casualties has the same responsibilities as one taking few casualties.

    That said, the proportion of civilian casualties to the total population of Gaza is comparable to that of Chechnya and less than in Vietnam, North Korea or the East Front of WW2. Unfortunately, civilian casualties are an inevitable part of modern war.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (7 children)
  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    "Genocide" is just another word for "war"?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    When it's targeted at a specific group of people and there's such a dramatic power imbalance, yes. Whether modern definitions agree or not.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    All wars are targeted at a specific group of people.

    So if your definition amounts to a highly favorable balance of power, then all countries at war would aspire to make it a "genocide".

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children)

    All wars are targeted at a specific group of people.

    Yes, my wording was vague. But say you went to war with Canada, a diverse nation. It would feel different if you broadly targeted all Canadians rather than specifically indigenous Canadians, or black Canadians, for example.

    And putting this on the table now: I am Canadian and I recognise my country was built upon its own genocide.

    Edit: Someone else feel free to chime in, I still don't feel I am conveying this well

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Ok, then why would a hypothetical US invasion of Canada (which today, unlike in 1812, would be imbalanced in favor of the US) be better than an Israeli invasion of Gaza?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    It wouldn't be better but the circumstances would determine whether my mind would immediately jump to calling it that. I'm not necessarily quick to jump to claiming genocide but I won't readily denounce it.

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