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What it's like to be a developer in 2024 (sopuli.xyz)
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[–] 180 points 2 years ago* (10 children)

I definitely feel the pain when it comes to worthless results nowadays. Though in this case DDG comes through:

Adding documentation to the search makes the "correct" page soar to the top:

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    Haha, nope. The links points to a table of contents after which you are on your own. The right link should point to a specific page instead, but the problem here is that postres docs are poorly optimized for search engines. If you click on the top link from google, you would see there's a notice that the page is outdated, with a link to a current version, but said link is dead. It's not an issue I've ever experienced with mysql docs for example.

    And yes, w3schools, despite how terrible it is, is still above the official docs because it is more popular with newbies. I remember a time when I just started, I preferred sites like it, because they were simple and on point, rather than technically correct and comprehensive like the official docs are. If you forgot the feeling, try learning math on wikipedia (assuming you don't have a math degree).

    For the rest I cannot argue. Generated/AI shit is indeed ruining the internet and search engines giving up and joining them isn't helpful either.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    After which ctrl+f " in" takes you to the correct chapters. I do agree that a direct link would be more helpful.
    And for learning postgresql I agree it isn't very helpful - using their tutorial links, w3schools or something like udemy if you prefer video format is the way to go in that use case.

    I remember back when you were told to learn to work with the documentation, not memorize it, because you will always have access to it as a reference. Maybe bookmarking reference books/documentation will make a come back as the search engines degrade.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Surely the word 'in' would appear countless times out of context on the table of contents.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    " in" appears 25 times on the page to be exact, with 16 of those being in the table of contents and 9 being in the text afterwards.
    "in" appears 54 times, as you know end up hitting "string" and so on.

    Had I known that the functions table of contents was as short as it is I would probably have just scrolled.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Kagi

    Kagi only lists postgresql.org for the first 10 entries, but outdated ones in first place. With the programming scope it collapses all official do s entries to one, with GH and SO filling the rest.

    For the quick answer, it also uses the 'outdated' docs as source, but as it only gives a very shallow overview there shouldn't be any difference in version (i.e. it checks for a value in a list in all versions the same, and quick answer leaves out details specific to different versions)

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