▲ 795 ▼ It do be like that (sh.itjust.works) submitted 2 years ago by RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works to c/memes@lemmy.world 135 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also, it's hard for a computer to parse a resume, and most of this stuff runs through a computer before a human sees it, so filling a form makes sure the data is correct. You also don't have to worry about corrupted or unsupported files. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 800XL@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) You're telling me that computers are sophisticated enough to drive cars and create new antibiotics but resumes are just too much? Nah. If that's the case then don't ask for a resume and only have the form to input job history that can be easily handed over to a manager using a printable template. It's lazy on HR's part and on the HR software they use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BangCrash@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Have you ever seen a standard resume? They don't exist. Resumes are totally different for every person. Different document format, different layout. The forms are for filtering. Ones that pass filtering, then the resumes will actually be read. permalink fedilink source parent [–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) that computers are sophisticated enough to drive cars they aren't permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 800XL@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not according to every shitty car company with a "social media expert" that makes an OpenAI account permalink fedilink source parent [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I’m pretty sure you can probably train an AI to do this quite accurately these days, and in fact, someone out there has likely already done that. The question is whether the company you’re applying to is willing to pay for that. Unfortunately, if does, it would probably also be willing to pay for an AI to replace you as well, and if it isn’t, they’ll likely have you do similarly boring and useless tasks at your job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't. An NDA prohibits me from saying how I know this, but I know for a fact that advanced and specifically trained FMs still struggle to accurately parse resumes, even with several million dollars devoted to the project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Really? That's quite surprising. I understand that it's not trivial to algorithmically parse a resume formatted for human consumption even though it's a somewhat structured format, just because the formatting can vary quite a lot, but there's only so many different types of information on there, and little of it has any overlap in terms of how it could be categorized, so I would think an AI should be quite effective at picking it up. Then again, I'm not an AI expert and I certainly haven't attempted to do anything like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago The models can do alright for very simple resumes, but once you start getting into multiple page ones it gets messy. While resumes follow a pattern that we're able to easily recognize, there's so much variation that even with AI you have to add in a ton of heuristics to control for hallucinations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) You're telling me that computers are sophisticated enough to drive cars and create new antibiotics but resumes are just too much? Nah. If that's the case then don't ask for a resume and only have the form to input job history that can be easily handed over to a manager using a printable template. It's lazy on HR's part and on the HR software they use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BangCrash@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Have you ever seen a standard resume? They don't exist. Resumes are totally different for every person. Different document format, different layout. The forms are for filtering. Ones that pass filtering, then the resumes will actually be read. permalink fedilink source parent [–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) that computers are sophisticated enough to drive cars they aren't permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 800XL@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not according to every shitty car company with a "social media expert" that makes an OpenAI account permalink fedilink source parent [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I’m pretty sure you can probably train an AI to do this quite accurately these days, and in fact, someone out there has likely already done that. The question is whether the company you’re applying to is willing to pay for that. Unfortunately, if does, it would probably also be willing to pay for an AI to replace you as well, and if it isn’t, they’ll likely have you do similarly boring and useless tasks at your job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't. An NDA prohibits me from saying how I know this, but I know for a fact that advanced and specifically trained FMs still struggle to accurately parse resumes, even with several million dollars devoted to the project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Really? That's quite surprising. I understand that it's not trivial to algorithmically parse a resume formatted for human consumption even though it's a somewhat structured format, just because the formatting can vary quite a lot, but there's only so many different types of information on there, and little of it has any overlap in terms of how it could be categorized, so I would think an AI should be quite effective at picking it up. Then again, I'm not an AI expert and I certainly haven't attempted to do anything like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago The models can do alright for very simple resumes, but once you start getting into multiple page ones it gets messy. While resumes follow a pattern that we're able to easily recognize, there's so much variation that even with AI you have to add in a ton of heuristics to control for hallucinations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BangCrash@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Have you ever seen a standard resume? They don't exist. Resumes are totally different for every person. Different document format, different layout. The forms are for filtering. Ones that pass filtering, then the resumes will actually be read. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) that computers are sophisticated enough to drive cars they aren't permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 800XL@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not according to every shitty car company with a "social media expert" that makes an OpenAI account permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not according to every shitty car company with a "social media expert" that makes an OpenAI account permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I’m pretty sure you can probably train an AI to do this quite accurately these days, and in fact, someone out there has likely already done that. The question is whether the company you’re applying to is willing to pay for that. Unfortunately, if does, it would probably also be willing to pay for an AI to replace you as well, and if it isn’t, they’ll likely have you do similarly boring and useless tasks at your job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't. An NDA prohibits me from saying how I know this, but I know for a fact that advanced and specifically trained FMs still struggle to accurately parse resumes, even with several million dollars devoted to the project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Really? That's quite surprising. I understand that it's not trivial to algorithmically parse a resume formatted for human consumption even though it's a somewhat structured format, just because the formatting can vary quite a lot, but there's only so many different types of information on there, and little of it has any overlap in terms of how it could be categorized, so I would think an AI should be quite effective at picking it up. Then again, I'm not an AI expert and I certainly haven't attempted to do anything like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago The models can do alright for very simple resumes, but once you start getting into multiple page ones it gets messy. While resumes follow a pattern that we're able to easily recognize, there's so much variation that even with AI you have to add in a ton of heuristics to control for hallucinations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't. An NDA prohibits me from saying how I know this, but I know for a fact that advanced and specifically trained FMs still struggle to accurately parse resumes, even with several million dollars devoted to the project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Really? That's quite surprising. I understand that it's not trivial to algorithmically parse a resume formatted for human consumption even though it's a somewhat structured format, just because the formatting can vary quite a lot, but there's only so many different types of information on there, and little of it has any overlap in terms of how it could be categorized, so I would think an AI should be quite effective at picking it up. Then again, I'm not an AI expert and I certainly haven't attempted to do anything like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago The models can do alright for very simple resumes, but once you start getting into multiple page ones it gets messy. While resumes follow a pattern that we're able to easily recognize, there's so much variation that even with AI you have to add in a ton of heuristics to control for hallucinations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Really? That's quite surprising. I understand that it's not trivial to algorithmically parse a resume formatted for human consumption even though it's a somewhat structured format, just because the formatting can vary quite a lot, but there's only so many different types of information on there, and little of it has any overlap in terms of how it could be categorized, so I would think an AI should be quite effective at picking it up. Then again, I'm not an AI expert and I certainly haven't attempted to do anything like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago The models can do alright for very simple resumes, but once you start getting into multiple page ones it gets messy. While resumes follow a pattern that we're able to easily recognize, there's so much variation that even with AI you have to add in a ton of heuristics to control for hallucinations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago The models can do alright for very simple resumes, but once you start getting into multiple page ones it gets messy. While resumes follow a pattern that we're able to easily recognize, there's so much variation that even with AI you have to add in a ton of heuristics to control for hallucinations. permalink fedilink source parent
