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[+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Turun@feddit.de 126 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forsén stated in the 2019 documentary film Losing Lena, "I retired from modeling a long time ago. It's time I retired from tech, too... Let's commit to losing me. From Wikipedia She was a paid model, so I don't consider the usage unethical based on that. But I like this comment from a journal: In today's age of high-resolution digital image technology, it seems difficult to argue that a 512 × 512 image produced with a 1970s-era analog scanner is the best we have to offer as an image quality test standard". Lmao, they do have a point though! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago In today’s age of high-resolution digital image technology, it seems difficult to argue that a 512 × 512 image produced with a 1970s-era analog scanner is the best we have to offer as an image quality test standard". I mean, this puts into context that the standard probably should have been some kind of test card like this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philips_circle_pattern permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago I don't know that she actually did. Most recent statement I can find from her is 2019, and she essentially says that she thinks it's time to retire the image. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmDash@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) She has since asked for the image to no longer be used, "I retired from modeling a long time ago. It's time I retired from tech, too. We can make a simple change today that creates a lasting change for tomorrow. Let's commit to losing me." https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/losing-lena-removing-one-image-to-make-millions-of-women-feel-welcome-300960513.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 years ago (7 children) Yeah, those woke culture warriors at the ... IEEE ... distracting us from ... Something... by asking academic researchers to ... Refrain from using a specific cropped pornographic image that the model has asked people to stop using. Those bastards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (5 children) I mean, the IEEE didn't really make that big of a deal about it. An email to members informing them of an update to https://magazines.ieeeauthorcenter.ieee.org/create-your-ieee-magazine-article/article-submission-requirements/ hardly feels like hype. I think it's about the minimal fuss you can make while still allowing people to know about the change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I'd agree that it's not really too interesting of a thing to report on, but... It just doesn't seem weird to me that they didn't talk about something, and then after something happened with it they did for a minute, and then they stopped again. Nine articles from a month ago, when they updated the policy, and none since doesn't scream "a ton" or "culture war" to me. And what is the act of class warfare being done here, in your view? What's the narrative or agenda being pushed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago I think you're reading way to much into things. Nine articles is not a "wave" or "trending", and if you had read any of them they're essentially non-sensational, explain that the image is notable because of its role in the development of digital imagery, why they're moving away, and why that's for the best. Jumping from a small number of neutral articles in either explicitly technical or technology adjacent sources to a "wave" of sensationalist agitation targeting older dissatisfied white men is, frankly, really fucking weird. With your "I don't work in this field, why do I need to hear about this" it really feels like your saying anything you don't care about shouldn't be reported on, and if it is reported on, it's because someone must have an ulterior motive. It's been a near standard test image for decades. Deprecating it is a model case for a low stakes info piece if you're a tech publication. News you're not interested in isn't automatically cultural warfare. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago JFC stay out of politics until you can figure out how to cite a primary source permalink fedilink source parent [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Naw, they're excellent for determining which kind of people are controlling manipulative monsters! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Turun@feddit.de 126 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forsén stated in the 2019 documentary film Losing Lena, "I retired from modeling a long time ago. It's time I retired from tech, too... Let's commit to losing me. From Wikipedia She was a paid model, so I don't consider the usage unethical based on that. But I like this comment from a journal: In today's age of high-resolution digital image technology, it seems difficult to argue that a 512 × 512 image produced with a 1970s-era analog scanner is the best we have to offer as an image quality test standard". Lmao, they do have a point though! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago In today’s age of high-resolution digital image technology, it seems difficult to argue that a 512 × 512 image produced with a 1970s-era analog scanner is the best we have to offer as an image quality test standard". I mean, this puts into context that the standard probably should have been some kind of test card like this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philips_circle_pattern permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago In today’s age of high-resolution digital image technology, it seems difficult to argue that a 512 × 512 image produced with a 1970s-era analog scanner is the best we have to offer as an image quality test standard". I mean, this puts into context that the standard probably should have been some kind of test card like this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philips_circle_pattern permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago I don't know that she actually did. Most recent statement I can find from her is 2019, and she essentially says that she thinks it's time to retire the image. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmDash@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) She has since asked for the image to no longer be used, "I retired from modeling a long time ago. It's time I retired from tech, too. We can make a simple change today that creates a lasting change for tomorrow. Let's commit to losing me." https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/losing-lena-removing-one-image-to-make-millions-of-women-feel-welcome-300960513.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 years ago (7 children) Yeah, those woke culture warriors at the ... IEEE ... distracting us from ... Something... by asking academic researchers to ... Refrain from using a specific cropped pornographic image that the model has asked people to stop using. Those bastards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (5 children) I mean, the IEEE didn't really make that big of a deal about it. An email to members informing them of an update to https://magazines.ieeeauthorcenter.ieee.org/create-your-ieee-magazine-article/article-submission-requirements/ hardly feels like hype. I think it's about the minimal fuss you can make while still allowing people to know about the change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I'd agree that it's not really too interesting of a thing to report on, but... It just doesn't seem weird to me that they didn't talk about something, and then after something happened with it they did for a minute, and then they stopped again. Nine articles from a month ago, when they updated the policy, and none since doesn't scream "a ton" or "culture war" to me. And what is the act of class warfare being done here, in your view? What's the narrative or agenda being pushed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago I think you're reading way to much into things. Nine articles is not a "wave" or "trending", and if you had read any of them they're essentially non-sensational, explain that the image is notable because of its role in the development of digital imagery, why they're moving away, and why that's for the best. Jumping from a small number of neutral articles in either explicitly technical or technology adjacent sources to a "wave" of sensationalist agitation targeting older dissatisfied white men is, frankly, really fucking weird. With your "I don't work in this field, why do I need to hear about this" it really feels like your saying anything you don't care about shouldn't be reported on, and if it is reported on, it's because someone must have an ulterior motive. It's been a near standard test image for decades. Deprecating it is a model case for a low stakes info piece if you're a tech publication. News you're not interested in isn't automatically cultural warfare. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago JFC stay out of politics until you can figure out how to cite a primary source permalink fedilink source parent [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Naw, they're excellent for determining which kind of people are controlling manipulative monsters! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 years ago (7 children) Yeah, those woke culture warriors at the ... IEEE ... distracting us from ... Something... by asking academic researchers to ... Refrain from using a specific cropped pornographic image that the model has asked people to stop using. Those bastards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (5 children) I mean, the IEEE didn't really make that big of a deal about it. An email to members informing them of an update to https://magazines.ieeeauthorcenter.ieee.org/create-your-ieee-magazine-article/article-submission-requirements/ hardly feels like hype. I think it's about the minimal fuss you can make while still allowing people to know about the change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I'd agree that it's not really too interesting of a thing to report on, but... It just doesn't seem weird to me that they didn't talk about something, and then after something happened with it they did for a minute, and then they stopped again. Nine articles from a month ago, when they updated the policy, and none since doesn't scream "a ton" or "culture war" to me. And what is the act of class warfare being done here, in your view? What's the narrative or agenda being pushed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago I think you're reading way to much into things. Nine articles is not a "wave" or "trending", and if you had read any of them they're essentially non-sensational, explain that the image is notable because of its role in the development of digital imagery, why they're moving away, and why that's for the best. Jumping from a small number of neutral articles in either explicitly technical or technology adjacent sources to a "wave" of sensationalist agitation targeting older dissatisfied white men is, frankly, really fucking weird. With your "I don't work in this field, why do I need to hear about this" it really feels like your saying anything you don't care about shouldn't be reported on, and if it is reported on, it's because someone must have an ulterior motive. It's been a near standard test image for decades. Deprecating it is a model case for a low stakes info piece if you're a tech publication. News you're not interested in isn't automatically cultural warfare. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago JFC stay out of politics until you can figure out how to cite a primary source permalink fedilink source parent
[+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (5 children) I mean, the IEEE didn't really make that big of a deal about it. An email to members informing them of an update to https://magazines.ieeeauthorcenter.ieee.org/create-your-ieee-magazine-article/article-submission-requirements/ hardly feels like hype. I think it's about the minimal fuss you can make while still allowing people to know about the change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I'd agree that it's not really too interesting of a thing to report on, but... It just doesn't seem weird to me that they didn't talk about something, and then after something happened with it they did for a minute, and then they stopped again. Nine articles from a month ago, when they updated the policy, and none since doesn't scream "a ton" or "culture war" to me. And what is the act of class warfare being done here, in your view? What's the narrative or agenda being pushed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago I think you're reading way to much into things. Nine articles is not a "wave" or "trending", and if you had read any of them they're essentially non-sensational, explain that the image is notable because of its role in the development of digital imagery, why they're moving away, and why that's for the best. Jumping from a small number of neutral articles in either explicitly technical or technology adjacent sources to a "wave" of sensationalist agitation targeting older dissatisfied white men is, frankly, really fucking weird. With your "I don't work in this field, why do I need to hear about this" it really feels like your saying anything you don't care about shouldn't be reported on, and if it is reported on, it's because someone must have an ulterior motive. It's been a near standard test image for decades. Deprecating it is a model case for a low stakes info piece if you're a tech publication. News you're not interested in isn't automatically cultural warfare. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago JFC stay out of politics until you can figure out how to cite a primary source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (5 children) I mean, the IEEE didn't really make that big of a deal about it. An email to members informing them of an update to https://magazines.ieeeauthorcenter.ieee.org/create-your-ieee-magazine-article/article-submission-requirements/ hardly feels like hype. I think it's about the minimal fuss you can make while still allowing people to know about the change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I'd agree that it's not really too interesting of a thing to report on, but... It just doesn't seem weird to me that they didn't talk about something, and then after something happened with it they did for a minute, and then they stopped again. Nine articles from a month ago, when they updated the policy, and none since doesn't scream "a ton" or "culture war" to me. And what is the act of class warfare being done here, in your view? What's the narrative or agenda being pushed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago I think you're reading way to much into things. Nine articles is not a "wave" or "trending", and if you had read any of them they're essentially non-sensational, explain that the image is notable because of its role in the development of digital imagery, why they're moving away, and why that's for the best. Jumping from a small number of neutral articles in either explicitly technical or technology adjacent sources to a "wave" of sensationalist agitation targeting older dissatisfied white men is, frankly, really fucking weird. With your "I don't work in this field, why do I need to hear about this" it really feels like your saying anything you don't care about shouldn't be reported on, and if it is reported on, it's because someone must have an ulterior motive. It's been a near standard test image for decades. Deprecating it is a model case for a low stakes info piece if you're a tech publication. News you're not interested in isn't automatically cultural warfare. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago JFC stay out of politics until you can figure out how to cite a primary source permalink fedilink source parent
[+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I'd agree that it's not really too interesting of a thing to report on, but... It just doesn't seem weird to me that they didn't talk about something, and then after something happened with it they did for a minute, and then they stopped again. Nine articles from a month ago, when they updated the policy, and none since doesn't scream "a ton" or "culture war" to me. And what is the act of class warfare being done here, in your view? What's the narrative or agenda being pushed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago I think you're reading way to much into things. Nine articles is not a "wave" or "trending", and if you had read any of them they're essentially non-sensational, explain that the image is notable because of its role in the development of digital imagery, why they're moving away, and why that's for the best. Jumping from a small number of neutral articles in either explicitly technical or technology adjacent sources to a "wave" of sensationalist agitation targeting older dissatisfied white men is, frankly, really fucking weird. With your "I don't work in this field, why do I need to hear about this" it really feels like your saying anything you don't care about shouldn't be reported on, and if it is reported on, it's because someone must have an ulterior motive. It's been a near standard test image for decades. Deprecating it is a model case for a low stakes info piece if you're a tech publication. News you're not interested in isn't automatically cultural warfare. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago JFC stay out of politics until you can figure out how to cite a primary source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I'd agree that it's not really too interesting of a thing to report on, but... It just doesn't seem weird to me that they didn't talk about something, and then after something happened with it they did for a minute, and then they stopped again. Nine articles from a month ago, when they updated the policy, and none since doesn't scream "a ton" or "culture war" to me. And what is the act of class warfare being done here, in your view? What's the narrative or agenda being pushed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago I think you're reading way to much into things. Nine articles is not a "wave" or "trending", and if you had read any of them they're essentially non-sensational, explain that the image is notable because of its role in the development of digital imagery, why they're moving away, and why that's for the best. Jumping from a small number of neutral articles in either explicitly technical or technology adjacent sources to a "wave" of sensationalist agitation targeting older dissatisfied white men is, frankly, really fucking weird. With your "I don't work in this field, why do I need to hear about this" it really feels like your saying anything you don't care about shouldn't be reported on, and if it is reported on, it's because someone must have an ulterior motive. It's been a near standard test image for decades. Deprecating it is a model case for a low stakes info piece if you're a tech publication. News you're not interested in isn't automatically cultural warfare. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago I think you're reading way to much into things. Nine articles is not a "wave" or "trending", and if you had read any of them they're essentially non-sensational, explain that the image is notable because of its role in the development of digital imagery, why they're moving away, and why that's for the best. Jumping from a small number of neutral articles in either explicitly technical or technology adjacent sources to a "wave" of sensationalist agitation targeting older dissatisfied white men is, frankly, really fucking weird. With your "I don't work in this field, why do I need to hear about this" it really feels like your saying anything you don't care about shouldn't be reported on, and if it is reported on, it's because someone must have an ulterior motive. It's been a near standard test image for decades. Deprecating it is a model case for a low stakes info piece if you're a tech publication. News you're not interested in isn't automatically cultural warfare. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago I think you're reading way to much into things. Nine articles is not a "wave" or "trending", and if you had read any of them they're essentially non-sensational, explain that the image is notable because of its role in the development of digital imagery, why they're moving away, and why that's for the best. Jumping from a small number of neutral articles in either explicitly technical or technology adjacent sources to a "wave" of sensationalist agitation targeting older dissatisfied white men is, frankly, really fucking weird. With your "I don't work in this field, why do I need to hear about this" it really feels like your saying anything you don't care about shouldn't be reported on, and if it is reported on, it's because someone must have an ulterior motive. It's been a near standard test image for decades. Deprecating it is a model case for a low stakes info piece if you're a tech publication. News you're not interested in isn't automatically cultural warfare. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago JFC stay out of politics until you can figure out how to cite a primary source permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Naw, they're excellent for determining which kind of people are controlling manipulative monsters! permalink fedilink source parent