▲ 159 ▼ Biden calls US ally Japan ‘xenophobic’ along with Russia and China (www.cnn.com) submitted 2 years ago by nekandro@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 148 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) As always, more projection permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Makhno@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago He's literally pushing through an anti-immigration bill, also we have always had a strong nativist movement permalink fedilink source parent [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (10 children) The US is one of the most xenophobic countries in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Japan is notably more xenophobic. No matter how long you live in Japan, even if you manage to get full citizenship (which even celebrities who have lived there for decades struggle with), you are never considered "Japanese" by the native-born Japanese people. The USA on the other hand is comparatively easy to become a citizen of and has laws banning discrimination based on race and national origin for employers. A citizen is a citizen is a citizen. The only job in the entire country that requires you be born as a citizen is the POTUS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's pretty damn hard to become a citizen in the US, and there are several studies showing that even legal immigrants from non-white countries with citizenship will face discrimination for their entire time in the US. Let's not forget how we treat people at the border either. There's significant evidence of genocidal treatment of immigrants at the Southern border, like forced sterilization permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago* Right, but in Japan it's legal for businesses to racially descriminate against both potential customers and potential hires. During the height of the COVID pandemic, many businesses had "No Foreigners allowed" signs due to the perception that COVID was spread by foreigners. In the US there's lots of controversy over racism, but in Japan you don't hear about it because it's generally the accepted status quo. In Japan, it has until recently been a legal requirement for trans people to undergo sterilization in order for their gender to be legally recognized (which is also a legal requirement for trans people to adopt children there). To be clear, I'm not saying the US is not xenophobic. What I am saying is that from an American perspective, Japan is even more so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) most? Don't get out much, eh? Xenophobia is present all throughout the world in different amounts, it has its roots in any insulated human nature. The US is far from the worst on Earth though, despite whatever cherry-picked propaganda one may read. We just do have some, particularly in more interior regions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't hear about other countries doing forced sterilization on immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I'm not clicking on that. Assuming it's about the ICE facility allegations from 2020 though. And yeah, Trump is a monster. Make no mistake, the US could go fully fascist if we let it, there are certainly xenophobic elements within the country. It's not a majority opinion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) "majority opinion" doesn't matter, government actions do. Regardless of the majority opinion, what has occurred and other things that continue to occur are irreparably destroying lives and killing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If all government actions from any point in time are what matter, and not the democratic opinions of the populace or the actions of the current government, then I'd say the worst was Mongolia under Genghis Khan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is emphatically wrong on every level. You're calling an entire country and it's inhabitants xenophobic, yet you're referring to the actions of a far-right figure we not only voted out of office, but never voted to put in in the first place (he lost the popular vote.) You're ironically very xenophobic - even if you are American. Because most Americans are welcoming as part of our culture. To be against that is not only wrong, it's also very unfounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Did you really vote him out of office? I've got white-guy blindness; and the settler who currently occupies that seat has been seemingly carrying on a solid half of Trump's platform. Continued building the wall, continued funding ICE, continued funding 10-33, didn't mandate RICO charges against the Jan 6th protestors, but was more than happy to let RICOs fly on the Cop City protestors, didn't shut down the concentration caps on the southern border, I genuinely can't tell them apart. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Amerika already is full-fascist; if you can't tell, you haven't been paying attention. Must be comfortable where you're at. permalink fedilink source parent [–] folshost@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you ever actually been outside the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago I'd argue they've ever never been inside it, or they live in some crazy, far-right city. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago It's really not. Not to sound like I'm erasing racism in the US, but the reason you hear about it is because it's tested and contested so much. It's almost always way worse in more homogeneous nations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blargerer@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its really not and I challenge you to provide stats that say otherwise. Of course its one of the countries with the most racial tension, but that comes along with being one of the most racially diverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Does forced sterilization lend any credibility to that statement? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Americans are so racist they don't even realize how racist they are, and get mad when you point it out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* It's the second largest multi-ethnic democracy on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago Man no. Just... No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you mean by this? I live in the US on the Mexico border and we are extremely welcoming. Stop getting your facts from Fox News. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) People are allowing perfect be the enemy of good. We could treat migrants better and improve the visa pipeline, but once they acclimate they are just another person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) once they acclimate I’m curious what you consider “acclimation” (and I assume you mean assimilate) because that’s a pretty loaded requirement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Just assimilate into settler-vapidity and you won't get discriminated against anymore; won't keep the crackers from misidentifying where you're from and gunning you down in the street over it anyway." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Pretty much permalink fedilink source parent [–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago I don't think you know what that word means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states-2024#:~:text=How%20many%20U.S.%20residents%20are,or%2020%20percent)%20from%202010. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago He's literally pushing through an anti-immigration bill, also we have always had a strong nativist movement permalink fedilink source parent [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (10 children) The US is one of the most xenophobic countries in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Japan is notably more xenophobic. No matter how long you live in Japan, even if you manage to get full citizenship (which even celebrities who have lived there for decades struggle with), you are never considered "Japanese" by the native-born Japanese people. The USA on the other hand is comparatively easy to become a citizen of and has laws banning discrimination based on race and national origin for employers. A citizen is a citizen is a citizen. The only job in the entire country that requires you be born as a citizen is the POTUS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's pretty damn hard to become a citizen in the US, and there are several studies showing that even legal immigrants from non-white countries with citizenship will face discrimination for their entire time in the US. Let's not forget how we treat people at the border either. There's significant evidence of genocidal treatment of immigrants at the Southern border, like forced sterilization permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago* Right, but in Japan it's legal for businesses to racially descriminate against both potential customers and potential hires. During the height of the COVID pandemic, many businesses had "No Foreigners allowed" signs due to the perception that COVID was spread by foreigners. In the US there's lots of controversy over racism, but in Japan you don't hear about it because it's generally the accepted status quo. In Japan, it has until recently been a legal requirement for trans people to undergo sterilization in order for their gender to be legally recognized (which is also a legal requirement for trans people to adopt children there). To be clear, I'm not saying the US is not xenophobic. What I am saying is that from an American perspective, Japan is even more so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) most? Don't get out much, eh? Xenophobia is present all throughout the world in different amounts, it has its roots in any insulated human nature. The US is far from the worst on Earth though, despite whatever cherry-picked propaganda one may read. We just do have some, particularly in more interior regions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't hear about other countries doing forced sterilization on immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I'm not clicking on that. Assuming it's about the ICE facility allegations from 2020 though. And yeah, Trump is a monster. Make no mistake, the US could go fully fascist if we let it, there are certainly xenophobic elements within the country. It's not a majority opinion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) "majority opinion" doesn't matter, government actions do. Regardless of the majority opinion, what has occurred and other things that continue to occur are irreparably destroying lives and killing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If all government actions from any point in time are what matter, and not the democratic opinions of the populace or the actions of the current government, then I'd say the worst was Mongolia under Genghis Khan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is emphatically wrong on every level. You're calling an entire country and it's inhabitants xenophobic, yet you're referring to the actions of a far-right figure we not only voted out of office, but never voted to put in in the first place (he lost the popular vote.) You're ironically very xenophobic - even if you are American. Because most Americans are welcoming as part of our culture. To be against that is not only wrong, it's also very unfounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Did you really vote him out of office? I've got white-guy blindness; and the settler who currently occupies that seat has been seemingly carrying on a solid half of Trump's platform. Continued building the wall, continued funding ICE, continued funding 10-33, didn't mandate RICO charges against the Jan 6th protestors, but was more than happy to let RICOs fly on the Cop City protestors, didn't shut down the concentration caps on the southern border, I genuinely can't tell them apart. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Amerika already is full-fascist; if you can't tell, you haven't been paying attention. Must be comfortable where you're at. permalink fedilink source parent [–] folshost@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you ever actually been outside the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago I'd argue they've ever never been inside it, or they live in some crazy, far-right city. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago It's really not. Not to sound like I'm erasing racism in the US, but the reason you hear about it is because it's tested and contested so much. It's almost always way worse in more homogeneous nations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blargerer@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its really not and I challenge you to provide stats that say otherwise. Of course its one of the countries with the most racial tension, but that comes along with being one of the most racially diverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Does forced sterilization lend any credibility to that statement? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Americans are so racist they don't even realize how racist they are, and get mad when you point it out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* It's the second largest multi-ethnic democracy on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago Man no. Just... No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you mean by this? I live in the US on the Mexico border and we are extremely welcoming. Stop getting your facts from Fox News. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) People are allowing perfect be the enemy of good. We could treat migrants better and improve the visa pipeline, but once they acclimate they are just another person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) once they acclimate I’m curious what you consider “acclimation” (and I assume you mean assimilate) because that’s a pretty loaded requirement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Just assimilate into settler-vapidity and you won't get discriminated against anymore; won't keep the crackers from misidentifying where you're from and gunning you down in the street over it anyway." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Pretty much permalink fedilink source parent [–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago I don't think you know what that word means. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago He's literally pushing through an anti-immigration bill, also we have always had a strong nativist movement permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (10 children) The US is one of the most xenophobic countries in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Japan is notably more xenophobic. No matter how long you live in Japan, even if you manage to get full citizenship (which even celebrities who have lived there for decades struggle with), you are never considered "Japanese" by the native-born Japanese people. The USA on the other hand is comparatively easy to become a citizen of and has laws banning discrimination based on race and national origin for employers. A citizen is a citizen is a citizen. The only job in the entire country that requires you be born as a citizen is the POTUS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's pretty damn hard to become a citizen in the US, and there are several studies showing that even legal immigrants from non-white countries with citizenship will face discrimination for their entire time in the US. Let's not forget how we treat people at the border either. There's significant evidence of genocidal treatment of immigrants at the Southern border, like forced sterilization permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago* Right, but in Japan it's legal for businesses to racially descriminate against both potential customers and potential hires. During the height of the COVID pandemic, many businesses had "No Foreigners allowed" signs due to the perception that COVID was spread by foreigners. In the US there's lots of controversy over racism, but in Japan you don't hear about it because it's generally the accepted status quo. In Japan, it has until recently been a legal requirement for trans people to undergo sterilization in order for their gender to be legally recognized (which is also a legal requirement for trans people to adopt children there). To be clear, I'm not saying the US is not xenophobic. What I am saying is that from an American perspective, Japan is even more so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) most? Don't get out much, eh? Xenophobia is present all throughout the world in different amounts, it has its roots in any insulated human nature. The US is far from the worst on Earth though, despite whatever cherry-picked propaganda one may read. We just do have some, particularly in more interior regions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't hear about other countries doing forced sterilization on immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I'm not clicking on that. Assuming it's about the ICE facility allegations from 2020 though. And yeah, Trump is a monster. Make no mistake, the US could go fully fascist if we let it, there are certainly xenophobic elements within the country. It's not a majority opinion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) "majority opinion" doesn't matter, government actions do. Regardless of the majority opinion, what has occurred and other things that continue to occur are irreparably destroying lives and killing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If all government actions from any point in time are what matter, and not the democratic opinions of the populace or the actions of the current government, then I'd say the worst was Mongolia under Genghis Khan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is emphatically wrong on every level. You're calling an entire country and it's inhabitants xenophobic, yet you're referring to the actions of a far-right figure we not only voted out of office, but never voted to put in in the first place (he lost the popular vote.) You're ironically very xenophobic - even if you are American. Because most Americans are welcoming as part of our culture. To be against that is not only wrong, it's also very unfounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Did you really vote him out of office? I've got white-guy blindness; and the settler who currently occupies that seat has been seemingly carrying on a solid half of Trump's platform. Continued building the wall, continued funding ICE, continued funding 10-33, didn't mandate RICO charges against the Jan 6th protestors, but was more than happy to let RICOs fly on the Cop City protestors, didn't shut down the concentration caps on the southern border, I genuinely can't tell them apart. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Amerika already is full-fascist; if you can't tell, you haven't been paying attention. Must be comfortable where you're at. permalink fedilink source parent [–] folshost@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you ever actually been outside the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago I'd argue they've ever never been inside it, or they live in some crazy, far-right city. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago It's really not. Not to sound like I'm erasing racism in the US, but the reason you hear about it is because it's tested and contested so much. It's almost always way worse in more homogeneous nations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blargerer@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its really not and I challenge you to provide stats that say otherwise. Of course its one of the countries with the most racial tension, but that comes along with being one of the most racially diverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Does forced sterilization lend any credibility to that statement? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Americans are so racist they don't even realize how racist they are, and get mad when you point it out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* It's the second largest multi-ethnic democracy on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago Man no. Just... No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you mean by this? I live in the US on the Mexico border and we are extremely welcoming. Stop getting your facts from Fox News. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) People are allowing perfect be the enemy of good. We could treat migrants better and improve the visa pipeline, but once they acclimate they are just another person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) once they acclimate I’m curious what you consider “acclimation” (and I assume you mean assimilate) because that’s a pretty loaded requirement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Just assimilate into settler-vapidity and you won't get discriminated against anymore; won't keep the crackers from misidentifying where you're from and gunning you down in the street over it anyway." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Pretty much permalink fedilink source parent [–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago I don't think you know what that word means. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Japan is notably more xenophobic. No matter how long you live in Japan, even if you manage to get full citizenship (which even celebrities who have lived there for decades struggle with), you are never considered "Japanese" by the native-born Japanese people. The USA on the other hand is comparatively easy to become a citizen of and has laws banning discrimination based on race and national origin for employers. A citizen is a citizen is a citizen. The only job in the entire country that requires you be born as a citizen is the POTUS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's pretty damn hard to become a citizen in the US, and there are several studies showing that even legal immigrants from non-white countries with citizenship will face discrimination for their entire time in the US. Let's not forget how we treat people at the border either. There's significant evidence of genocidal treatment of immigrants at the Southern border, like forced sterilization permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago* Right, but in Japan it's legal for businesses to racially descriminate against both potential customers and potential hires. During the height of the COVID pandemic, many businesses had "No Foreigners allowed" signs due to the perception that COVID was spread by foreigners. In the US there's lots of controversy over racism, but in Japan you don't hear about it because it's generally the accepted status quo. In Japan, it has until recently been a legal requirement for trans people to undergo sterilization in order for their gender to be legally recognized (which is also a legal requirement for trans people to adopt children there). To be clear, I'm not saying the US is not xenophobic. What I am saying is that from an American perspective, Japan is even more so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's pretty damn hard to become a citizen in the US, and there are several studies showing that even legal immigrants from non-white countries with citizenship will face discrimination for their entire time in the US. Let's not forget how we treat people at the border either. There's significant evidence of genocidal treatment of immigrants at the Southern border, like forced sterilization permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago* Right, but in Japan it's legal for businesses to racially descriminate against both potential customers and potential hires. During the height of the COVID pandemic, many businesses had "No Foreigners allowed" signs due to the perception that COVID was spread by foreigners. In the US there's lots of controversy over racism, but in Japan you don't hear about it because it's generally the accepted status quo. In Japan, it has until recently been a legal requirement for trans people to undergo sterilization in order for their gender to be legally recognized (which is also a legal requirement for trans people to adopt children there). To be clear, I'm not saying the US is not xenophobic. What I am saying is that from an American perspective, Japan is even more so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago* Right, but in Japan it's legal for businesses to racially descriminate against both potential customers and potential hires. During the height of the COVID pandemic, many businesses had "No Foreigners allowed" signs due to the perception that COVID was spread by foreigners. In the US there's lots of controversy over racism, but in Japan you don't hear about it because it's generally the accepted status quo. In Japan, it has until recently been a legal requirement for trans people to undergo sterilization in order for their gender to be legally recognized (which is also a legal requirement for trans people to adopt children there). To be clear, I'm not saying the US is not xenophobic. What I am saying is that from an American perspective, Japan is even more so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) most? Don't get out much, eh? Xenophobia is present all throughout the world in different amounts, it has its roots in any insulated human nature. The US is far from the worst on Earth though, despite whatever cherry-picked propaganda one may read. We just do have some, particularly in more interior regions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't hear about other countries doing forced sterilization on immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I'm not clicking on that. Assuming it's about the ICE facility allegations from 2020 though. And yeah, Trump is a monster. Make no mistake, the US could go fully fascist if we let it, there are certainly xenophobic elements within the country. It's not a majority opinion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) "majority opinion" doesn't matter, government actions do. Regardless of the majority opinion, what has occurred and other things that continue to occur are irreparably destroying lives and killing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If all government actions from any point in time are what matter, and not the democratic opinions of the populace or the actions of the current government, then I'd say the worst was Mongolia under Genghis Khan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is emphatically wrong on every level. You're calling an entire country and it's inhabitants xenophobic, yet you're referring to the actions of a far-right figure we not only voted out of office, but never voted to put in in the first place (he lost the popular vote.) You're ironically very xenophobic - even if you are American. Because most Americans are welcoming as part of our culture. To be against that is not only wrong, it's also very unfounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Did you really vote him out of office? I've got white-guy blindness; and the settler who currently occupies that seat has been seemingly carrying on a solid half of Trump's platform. Continued building the wall, continued funding ICE, continued funding 10-33, didn't mandate RICO charges against the Jan 6th protestors, but was more than happy to let RICOs fly on the Cop City protestors, didn't shut down the concentration caps on the southern border, I genuinely can't tell them apart. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Amerika already is full-fascist; if you can't tell, you haven't been paying attention. Must be comfortable where you're at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't hear about other countries doing forced sterilization on immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I'm not clicking on that. Assuming it's about the ICE facility allegations from 2020 though. And yeah, Trump is a monster. Make no mistake, the US could go fully fascist if we let it, there are certainly xenophobic elements within the country. It's not a majority opinion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) "majority opinion" doesn't matter, government actions do. Regardless of the majority opinion, what has occurred and other things that continue to occur are irreparably destroying lives and killing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If all government actions from any point in time are what matter, and not the democratic opinions of the populace or the actions of the current government, then I'd say the worst was Mongolia under Genghis Khan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is emphatically wrong on every level. You're calling an entire country and it's inhabitants xenophobic, yet you're referring to the actions of a far-right figure we not only voted out of office, but never voted to put in in the first place (he lost the popular vote.) You're ironically very xenophobic - even if you are American. Because most Americans are welcoming as part of our culture. To be against that is not only wrong, it's also very unfounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Did you really vote him out of office? I've got white-guy blindness; and the settler who currently occupies that seat has been seemingly carrying on a solid half of Trump's platform. Continued building the wall, continued funding ICE, continued funding 10-33, didn't mandate RICO charges against the Jan 6th protestors, but was more than happy to let RICOs fly on the Cop City protestors, didn't shut down the concentration caps on the southern border, I genuinely can't tell them apart. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Amerika already is full-fascist; if you can't tell, you haven't been paying attention. Must be comfortable where you're at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I'm not clicking on that. Assuming it's about the ICE facility allegations from 2020 though. And yeah, Trump is a monster. Make no mistake, the US could go fully fascist if we let it, there are certainly xenophobic elements within the country. It's not a majority opinion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) "majority opinion" doesn't matter, government actions do. Regardless of the majority opinion, what has occurred and other things that continue to occur are irreparably destroying lives and killing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If all government actions from any point in time are what matter, and not the democratic opinions of the populace or the actions of the current government, then I'd say the worst was Mongolia under Genghis Khan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is emphatically wrong on every level. You're calling an entire country and it's inhabitants xenophobic, yet you're referring to the actions of a far-right figure we not only voted out of office, but never voted to put in in the first place (he lost the popular vote.) You're ironically very xenophobic - even if you are American. Because most Americans are welcoming as part of our culture. To be against that is not only wrong, it's also very unfounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Did you really vote him out of office? I've got white-guy blindness; and the settler who currently occupies that seat has been seemingly carrying on a solid half of Trump's platform. Continued building the wall, continued funding ICE, continued funding 10-33, didn't mandate RICO charges against the Jan 6th protestors, but was more than happy to let RICOs fly on the Cop City protestors, didn't shut down the concentration caps on the southern border, I genuinely can't tell them apart. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Amerika already is full-fascist; if you can't tell, you haven't been paying attention. Must be comfortable where you're at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) "majority opinion" doesn't matter, government actions do. Regardless of the majority opinion, what has occurred and other things that continue to occur are irreparably destroying lives and killing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If all government actions from any point in time are what matter, and not the democratic opinions of the populace or the actions of the current government, then I'd say the worst was Mongolia under Genghis Khan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is emphatically wrong on every level. You're calling an entire country and it's inhabitants xenophobic, yet you're referring to the actions of a far-right figure we not only voted out of office, but never voted to put in in the first place (he lost the popular vote.) You're ironically very xenophobic - even if you are American. Because most Americans are welcoming as part of our culture. To be against that is not only wrong, it's also very unfounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Did you really vote him out of office? I've got white-guy blindness; and the settler who currently occupies that seat has been seemingly carrying on a solid half of Trump's platform. Continued building the wall, continued funding ICE, continued funding 10-33, didn't mandate RICO charges against the Jan 6th protestors, but was more than happy to let RICOs fly on the Cop City protestors, didn't shut down the concentration caps on the southern border, I genuinely can't tell them apart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If all government actions from any point in time are what matter, and not the democratic opinions of the populace or the actions of the current government, then I'd say the worst was Mongolia under Genghis Khan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is emphatically wrong on every level. You're calling an entire country and it's inhabitants xenophobic, yet you're referring to the actions of a far-right figure we not only voted out of office, but never voted to put in in the first place (he lost the popular vote.) You're ironically very xenophobic - even if you are American. Because most Americans are welcoming as part of our culture. To be against that is not only wrong, it's also very unfounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Did you really vote him out of office? I've got white-guy blindness; and the settler who currently occupies that seat has been seemingly carrying on a solid half of Trump's platform. Continued building the wall, continued funding ICE, continued funding 10-33, didn't mandate RICO charges against the Jan 6th protestors, but was more than happy to let RICOs fly on the Cop City protestors, didn't shut down the concentration caps on the southern border, I genuinely can't tell them apart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Did you really vote him out of office? I've got white-guy blindness; and the settler who currently occupies that seat has been seemingly carrying on a solid half of Trump's platform. Continued building the wall, continued funding ICE, continued funding 10-33, didn't mandate RICO charges against the Jan 6th protestors, but was more than happy to let RICOs fly on the Cop City protestors, didn't shut down the concentration caps on the southern border, I genuinely can't tell them apart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago Amerika already is full-fascist; if you can't tell, you haven't been paying attention. Must be comfortable where you're at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] folshost@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you ever actually been outside the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago I'd argue they've ever never been inside it, or they live in some crazy, far-right city. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago I'd argue they've ever never been inside it, or they live in some crazy, far-right city. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago It's really not. Not to sound like I'm erasing racism in the US, but the reason you hear about it is because it's tested and contested so much. It's almost always way worse in more homogeneous nations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blargerer@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its really not and I challenge you to provide stats that say otherwise. Of course its one of the countries with the most racial tension, but that comes along with being one of the most racially diverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Does forced sterilization lend any credibility to that statement? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Does forced sterilization lend any credibility to that statement? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Americans are so racist they don't even realize how racist they are, and get mad when you point it out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* It's the second largest multi-ethnic democracy on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago Man no. Just... No. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you mean by this? I live in the US on the Mexico border and we are extremely welcoming. Stop getting your facts from Fox News. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) People are allowing perfect be the enemy of good. We could treat migrants better and improve the visa pipeline, but once they acclimate they are just another person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) once they acclimate I’m curious what you consider “acclimation” (and I assume you mean assimilate) because that’s a pretty loaded requirement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Just assimilate into settler-vapidity and you won't get discriminated against anymore; won't keep the crackers from misidentifying where you're from and gunning you down in the street over it anyway." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Pretty much permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) People are allowing perfect be the enemy of good. We could treat migrants better and improve the visa pipeline, but once they acclimate they are just another person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) once they acclimate I’m curious what you consider “acclimation” (and I assume you mean assimilate) because that’s a pretty loaded requirement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Just assimilate into settler-vapidity and you won't get discriminated against anymore; won't keep the crackers from misidentifying where you're from and gunning you down in the street over it anyway." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Pretty much permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) once they acclimate I’m curious what you consider “acclimation” (and I assume you mean assimilate) because that’s a pretty loaded requirement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Just assimilate into settler-vapidity and you won't get discriminated against anymore; won't keep the crackers from misidentifying where you're from and gunning you down in the street over it anyway." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Pretty much permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "Just assimilate into settler-vapidity and you won't get discriminated against anymore; won't keep the crackers from misidentifying where you're from and gunning you down in the street over it anyway." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Pretty much permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago I don't think you know what that word means. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states-2024#:~:text=How%20many%20U.S.%20residents%20are,or%2020%20percent)%20from%202010. permalink fedilink source parent