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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I can't say for Canada but in the USA I have never seen or heard of off-road gasoline. And I worked enough farms and ranches that at least one of them would have been using it if it existed. So I highly doubt this is an off road tax reason.

Edit - it seems some people maybe thinking I am talking about off road diesel. I am not, I am specifically referring to only unleaded gasoline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I talked to a farmer in Kansas (near Colby, iirc) who had his own gas pump for farm/off-road use only, so it does exist here. Probably only found on pretty big farms though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just curious are you sure that was gasoline and not off-road diesel? Off-road diesel is very common and almost all farm equipment is diesel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Good point, it was a long time ago, so I don't recall if he said gas, fuel, diesel or something else related

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, it exists in the States. I used to be a truck driver, and we used marked fuel in our refrigerator units all the time since those engines are not powering a highway vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Really where? I've straight up asked farm fuel delivery services and they said it was not something they could provide. Interesting, I wonder if they were being lazy or it has to do with state taxes or what.

Edit - your reefers weren't diesel? Most of the reefers I've ever seen had those little three-cylinder Perkins in them. But I've never worked as a trucker so I wouldn't know for sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, they were diesel. I don't think it's as common nowadays as it was when I was driving because I don't see the separate off-highway pumps at truck stops anymore. It was always a common thing at smaller, independent truck stops, and those are all but extinct, it seems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So you are talking about off road diesel not off road gasoline. Correct? I am very familiar with off road diesel, but I can't find any reference to off road gasoline

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Off road gasoline is rare and varies by district, here in Canada I grew up in BC and we had "purple gas" and "red diesel" but purple gas was only sold at very specific stations, usually near parks where people would put it in ATVs and boats.

Now I live in SK and we only have "dyed diesel" which is your standard red farm stuff. You can get a discount on gasoline delivered to a farm tank, but there's no colorant added and almost nobody does it anyways, since gasoline goes stale and isn't used in farm equipment.

Myself I converted my remaining gasoline equipment to propane and run heating propane in it. The only gas burners left are lawnmowers, quads and a farm truck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, I'm talking about red diesel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I know you weren’t directly questioning my assertion, but in case anyone else happens to think I’m just blowing smoke: Coloured Fuel | DriveSmart BC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yep definitely not questioning your assertion. I try to do my best to not tell other people how their country works when I don't live there, I'm mostly successful

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I used died gasoline in a boat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is it common? I have never been a boat person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not uncommon, but not as common as died diesel of various types. A marina in Orange Beach Alabama sold a died diesel called locomotive diesel that is apparently different in composition from agricultural diesel.

Sadly the tax advantages is absorbed by the vendor as they are located in the water.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, what color do they dye it.

Looking up locomotive diesel. It didn't switch to ultra low sulfur for 5ish years after over the road diesel. I would bet it has a higher Cetane, probably some closer heavy fuel oil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It was dyed the same red and slightly cheaper than other marine diesel.