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Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving linked to hundreds of crashes, dozens of deaths (www.theverge.com)

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Accoring to the math in this video: :

150 000 000 miles have been driven with Teslas "FSD", which equals to
375 miles per tesla purchased with FSD capabilities
736 known FSD crashes with 17 fatalities
equals 11.3 deaths per 100M miles of teslas FSD

Doesnt sound to bad, until you hear that a human produces 1.35 deaths per 100M miles driven...

Its rough math, but holy moly that already is a completely other class of deadly than a non FSD car

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

a human produces 1.35 deaths per 100M miles driven

My car has been driven around 100k miles by a human, i.e. it has produced 0.00135 deaths. Is that like a third of a pinky toe?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Yeah, another 900k, and you'll be ded.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That number is like 1.5 billion now and rising exponentially fast.

Also those deaths weren't all FSD they were AP.

The report says 1 FSD related (not caused by but related) death. For whatever reason the full details on that one weren't released.

Edit: There are billions of miles on AP. In 2020 it was 3 billion

Edit: Got home and I tried finding AP numbers through 2024 but haven't seen anything recent, but given 3 billion 2020, and 2 billion in 2019, and an accelerating rate of usage with increased car sales, 2023 is probably closer to 8 billion miles. I imagine we'd hear when they reach 10 billion.

So 8 billion miles, 16 AP fatalities (because that 1 FSD one isn't the same) is 1 fatality per 500,000,000 miles, or put into the terms above by per 100mil miles, 0.2 fatalities per 100 million miles or 6.75 times less than a human produces. And nearly all of these fatal accidents were from blatant misuse of the system like driving drunk (at least a few) or using their phone and playing games.