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Turnbull berates The Australian for promoting climate denial (independentaustralia.net)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You said he “influenced” them so much that they got rid of him. You’re implying that his stance wasn’t conducive to their ideology so they removed him as their leader. He lost the party room because he tried to introduce the NEG, he refused to butcher the policy by funding coal fired plants. He didn’t succeed, but he did the best any liberal leader could amongst one of the most aggressively right wing eras in Australian politics.

Evidence?

What are you expecting me to quote on SH 2.0, you’ve claimed it was worse than the NBN but haven’t backed up legitimate reasons why?

No, I never said it was worse than NBN. I said it would be criminal (and I just mean that colloquially, ie that it would be funny in the saddest way) if it turned out worse than the NBN.

Because it’s expensive and went over budget? The original NBN quote was expensive, and you’d be to be highly optimistic if it stayed on budget and was delivered in time, it’s a government project afterall.

Are you claiming the mixed-tech NBN was a success vs the originally planned FTTP?

You can look into the NZ FTTP with reducing costs as rollout occurred as a counterpoint. Happy to look at your source.

Do you need links?

Have you got a link? Any link? You haven't given one so far. For anything you've claimed. Or that Turnbull has claimed.

BTW: I upvote you bro. Anyone downvoting shouldn't be, and should join the discussion. Respect!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This link speaks a bit to what I've been saying.

https://reneweconomy.com.au/turnbull-says-his-biggest-leadership-failure-was-on-climate-change-83289/

That being said a lot of what I've discussed is covered in both Turnbull's unauthorised biography and his memoirs, but I can't expect you to go and read those. But that link touches a bit on just what sort of battle he was facing even in cabinet. Without Turnbull, the NEG would have included 5 billion investment in coal fired plants. Sometimes it's about what you don't do that easily gets overlooked.

I won't touch the LNP NBN roll out as that's not what I was referring to and we don't need another tangent.