▲ 1487 ▼ Welp that answers a lot of why all .ml are down (i.imgur.com) submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by BarterClub@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world 521 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://very.bignutty.xyz/notes/9hf13it1ced3b2za
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 years ago (14 children) Unfortunately that has always been the nature of TLDs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] lohrun@fediverse.boo 20 points 3 years ago (12 children) It’s less sketchy if you pay for a domain through a reputable registrar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago (10 children) The issue here isn't the registrar though right? It's that the TLD is being repossessed by the government of the country it's meant to be associated with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 years ago (9 children) I think the point is that a reputable registrar wouldn't sell domains like these in the first place... But I'm not saying that's actually the case :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (8 children) Governments are unpredictable. It's not the registrar's job to mitigate that unpredictability to their customers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (5 children) Idk, I feel like we're only saying this because it's Mali... If it were .US or .CN people would be like "well, duh" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Every country gets to decide how tight of a grip they have on their TLD. Some sell it for some extra income (like Tuvalu) while others hang onto it for government or domestic use only permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah, and I'd say going with any of the ones that sell it or leave it free is a risk because you never know when their regime might change and the new one might want more of an official internet presence. Unless there's a 2nd level domain it's all under (like co.uk), you should assume they'll want it back at some point. This could apply more to popular domains that some governments could see as free traffic if they reclaim them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess I should be worried about Lemmy.ca permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Not really. When you pay for .us domain you have it for a certain number of years. If the US tried to suddenly yank those back and violate the outstanding contracts for x number of years, there would most likely be lawsuits and an injunction from a federal judge blocking the action until there are hearings, etc. It would be a whole thing. If you simply couldn't renew your .us domain anymore, that's something you would know ahead of time and could plan for. It wouldn't just vanish one day. permalink fedilink source parent [+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] hypelightfly@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago More like, it's less sketchy if you pay for a domain at all. .ml was free, what did they think was going to happen? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 6 points 3 years ago Indeed... you never really purchase a domain. It's definitely more of a lease. And that's any tld. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lohrun@fediverse.boo 20 points 3 years ago (12 children) It’s less sketchy if you pay for a domain through a reputable registrar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago (10 children) The issue here isn't the registrar though right? It's that the TLD is being repossessed by the government of the country it's meant to be associated with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 years ago (9 children) I think the point is that a reputable registrar wouldn't sell domains like these in the first place... But I'm not saying that's actually the case :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (8 children) Governments are unpredictable. It's not the registrar's job to mitigate that unpredictability to their customers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (5 children) Idk, I feel like we're only saying this because it's Mali... If it were .US or .CN people would be like "well, duh" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Every country gets to decide how tight of a grip they have on their TLD. Some sell it for some extra income (like Tuvalu) while others hang onto it for government or domestic use only permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah, and I'd say going with any of the ones that sell it or leave it free is a risk because you never know when their regime might change and the new one might want more of an official internet presence. Unless there's a 2nd level domain it's all under (like co.uk), you should assume they'll want it back at some point. This could apply more to popular domains that some governments could see as free traffic if they reclaim them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess I should be worried about Lemmy.ca permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Not really. When you pay for .us domain you have it for a certain number of years. If the US tried to suddenly yank those back and violate the outstanding contracts for x number of years, there would most likely be lawsuits and an injunction from a federal judge blocking the action until there are hearings, etc. It would be a whole thing. If you simply couldn't renew your .us domain anymore, that's something you would know ahead of time and could plan for. It wouldn't just vanish one day. permalink fedilink source parent [+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] hypelightfly@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago More like, it's less sketchy if you pay for a domain at all. .ml was free, what did they think was going to happen? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago (10 children) The issue here isn't the registrar though right? It's that the TLD is being repossessed by the government of the country it's meant to be associated with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 years ago (9 children) I think the point is that a reputable registrar wouldn't sell domains like these in the first place... But I'm not saying that's actually the case :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (8 children) Governments are unpredictable. It's not the registrar's job to mitigate that unpredictability to their customers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (5 children) Idk, I feel like we're only saying this because it's Mali... If it were .US or .CN people would be like "well, duh" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Every country gets to decide how tight of a grip they have on their TLD. Some sell it for some extra income (like Tuvalu) while others hang onto it for government or domestic use only permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah, and I'd say going with any of the ones that sell it or leave it free is a risk because you never know when their regime might change and the new one might want more of an official internet presence. Unless there's a 2nd level domain it's all under (like co.uk), you should assume they'll want it back at some point. This could apply more to popular domains that some governments could see as free traffic if they reclaim them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess I should be worried about Lemmy.ca permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Not really. When you pay for .us domain you have it for a certain number of years. If the US tried to suddenly yank those back and violate the outstanding contracts for x number of years, there would most likely be lawsuits and an injunction from a federal judge blocking the action until there are hearings, etc. It would be a whole thing. If you simply couldn't renew your .us domain anymore, that's something you would know ahead of time and could plan for. It wouldn't just vanish one day. permalink fedilink source parent [+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 years ago (9 children) I think the point is that a reputable registrar wouldn't sell domains like these in the first place... But I'm not saying that's actually the case :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (8 children) Governments are unpredictable. It's not the registrar's job to mitigate that unpredictability to their customers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (5 children) Idk, I feel like we're only saying this because it's Mali... If it were .US or .CN people would be like "well, duh" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Every country gets to decide how tight of a grip they have on their TLD. Some sell it for some extra income (like Tuvalu) while others hang onto it for government or domestic use only permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah, and I'd say going with any of the ones that sell it or leave it free is a risk because you never know when their regime might change and the new one might want more of an official internet presence. Unless there's a 2nd level domain it's all under (like co.uk), you should assume they'll want it back at some point. This could apply more to popular domains that some governments could see as free traffic if they reclaim them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess I should be worried about Lemmy.ca permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Not really. When you pay for .us domain you have it for a certain number of years. If the US tried to suddenly yank those back and violate the outstanding contracts for x number of years, there would most likely be lawsuits and an injunction from a federal judge blocking the action until there are hearings, etc. It would be a whole thing. If you simply couldn't renew your .us domain anymore, that's something you would know ahead of time and could plan for. It wouldn't just vanish one day. permalink fedilink source parent [+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (8 children) Governments are unpredictable. It's not the registrar's job to mitigate that unpredictability to their customers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (5 children) Idk, I feel like we're only saying this because it's Mali... If it were .US or .CN people would be like "well, duh" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Every country gets to decide how tight of a grip they have on their TLD. Some sell it for some extra income (like Tuvalu) while others hang onto it for government or domestic use only permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah, and I'd say going with any of the ones that sell it or leave it free is a risk because you never know when their regime might change and the new one might want more of an official internet presence. Unless there's a 2nd level domain it's all under (like co.uk), you should assume they'll want it back at some point. This could apply more to popular domains that some governments could see as free traffic if they reclaim them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess I should be worried about Lemmy.ca permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Not really. When you pay for .us domain you have it for a certain number of years. If the US tried to suddenly yank those back and violate the outstanding contracts for x number of years, there would most likely be lawsuits and an injunction from a federal judge blocking the action until there are hearings, etc. It would be a whole thing. If you simply couldn't renew your .us domain anymore, that's something you would know ahead of time and could plan for. It wouldn't just vanish one day. permalink fedilink source parent [+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (5 children) Idk, I feel like we're only saying this because it's Mali... If it were .US or .CN people would be like "well, duh" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Every country gets to decide how tight of a grip they have on their TLD. Some sell it for some extra income (like Tuvalu) while others hang onto it for government or domestic use only permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah, and I'd say going with any of the ones that sell it or leave it free is a risk because you never know when their regime might change and the new one might want more of an official internet presence. Unless there's a 2nd level domain it's all under (like co.uk), you should assume they'll want it back at some point. This could apply more to popular domains that some governments could see as free traffic if they reclaim them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess I should be worried about Lemmy.ca permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Not really. When you pay for .us domain you have it for a certain number of years. If the US tried to suddenly yank those back and violate the outstanding contracts for x number of years, there would most likely be lawsuits and an injunction from a federal judge blocking the action until there are hearings, etc. It would be a whole thing. If you simply couldn't renew your .us domain anymore, that's something you would know ahead of time and could plan for. It wouldn't just vanish one day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Every country gets to decide how tight of a grip they have on their TLD. Some sell it for some extra income (like Tuvalu) while others hang onto it for government or domestic use only permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah, and I'd say going with any of the ones that sell it or leave it free is a risk because you never know when their regime might change and the new one might want more of an official internet presence. Unless there's a 2nd level domain it's all under (like co.uk), you should assume they'll want it back at some point. This could apply more to popular domains that some governments could see as free traffic if they reclaim them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess I should be worried about Lemmy.ca permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah, and I'd say going with any of the ones that sell it or leave it free is a risk because you never know when their regime might change and the new one might want more of an official internet presence. Unless there's a 2nd level domain it's all under (like co.uk), you should assume they'll want it back at some point. This could apply more to popular domains that some governments could see as free traffic if they reclaim them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess I should be worried about Lemmy.ca permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess I should be worried about Lemmy.ca permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll be fine as long as they keep up with their maple syrup or poutine tribute. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bill@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Not really. When you pay for .us domain you have it for a certain number of years. If the US tried to suddenly yank those back and violate the outstanding contracts for x number of years, there would most likely be lawsuits and an injunction from a federal judge blocking the action until there are hearings, etc. It would be a whole thing. If you simply couldn't renew your .us domain anymore, that's something you would know ahead of time and could plan for. It wouldn't just vanish one day. permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] hypelightfly@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago More like, it's less sketchy if you pay for a domain at all. .ml was free, what did they think was going to happen? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 6 points 3 years ago Indeed... you never really purchase a domain. It's definitely more of a lease. And that's any tld. permalink fedilink source parent