▲ 152 ▼ AP News: A search is underway for missing submarine that takes people to see Titanic (apnews.com) submitted 3 years ago by philz@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org 96 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 25 points 3 years ago (2 children) CBS dude rode on it and did an interview with the owner. So many red flags. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o&feature=youtu.be permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) Built with shit from Home Depot, controlled with a literal Logitech game controller, construction pipes as ballast... holy fuck, why would anybody agree to go 3.7km below the surface of the ocean in that deathtrap? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) Imagine paying $250k and the pilot pulls out the player 2 controller permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SevenSwell@beehaw.org 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Those Logitech controllers are actually pretty decent. I've had one for ages and it's still going strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 years ago And it's easily replaceable in case of failure. Of all the design shortcuts this one isn't bad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago lmao for real. Couldn't even fork out for a first party controller. permalink fedilink source parent [–] patchymoose@rammy.site 4 points 3 years ago Jesus, is that really what they're using? 😳 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chrisosaur@startrek.website 9 points 3 years ago Hope the pilot tried ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️ start permalink fedilink source parent [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Made out of a fiberglass tube (catastrophic failure) and titanium end caps (cracks) instead of steel. “Steel is real.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Titanium cracks under pressure, I take it? Or is the join between the cap and the fiberglass body potentially more of a problem? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 10 points 3 years ago Everything cracks under pressure, I'm not exactly sure what the above commenter is getting at. If the sub was steel the walls would be thinner. With titanium the walls are thicker. Without knowing the dimensions of the material we can't know whether it was built to high enough standards. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZapBeebz@beehaw.org 8 points 3 years ago I mean, anything will crack under pressure. The biggest issue I see is uneven compression of the two materials coupled with different fatigue behaviors. I'd feel a lot safer if the whole submarine was titanium, honestly. Barring that, a couple inches of solid steel would be just as comforting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I would be worried about both. Joining two very different materials that need to deal with crazy pressures seems like a really bad idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BongRipsMcGee420@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago bUt iT wAs dEsIgNeD wItH NASA iNpUt permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Add temperature changes as you dive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Good point! permalink fedilink source parent [–] demvoter@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (2 children) Wow, that is super sketchy. Now I am not at all surprised this happened. Hope that company has a shit ton of insurance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xxxfroggyxxx@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Also, I’ve seen so many Scientific deepwater vehicles that are thethered to the ship in some form. Why isn’t this thing hooked up to a cran yhat can get it back up if someone fails? I’d think passenger vessels should pass more rigurous safety standards than that. Are they liable btw or is the “international waters” situation doing them any favor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 3 years ago I seem to recall a point in that CBS video where they had to sign a waiver stating among other things that they acknowledged it was an experimental vessel that is not certified by or approved any regulatory agency, so, yeah. I don't know that I'd count on there being rigorous safely standards in that case permalink fedilink source parent [–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) There was a conspiracy that the original titanic going down was an insurance scam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 12 points 3 years ago (2 children) There's also a conspiracy that my farts smell like rancid carrots because the government puts carrots up my butt while I'm sleeping permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago Why aren't more people talking about big carrot? Wake up sheeple permalink fedilink source parent [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago Absolutely ridiculous. It's huge international mega-corporations doing that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mobyduck648@beehaw.org 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) An easily disproved one too, as the sister ships weren’t actually identical. Also the recent scan on the ship revealed the hull number 401 on one of the propellers putting another nail in the coffin of the idea the ship is actually the Olympic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlueDiamond@rammy.site 3 points 3 years ago Oh i hate that stupid theory. That's like top tier "looking for a conspiracy because we've got nothing better to do" permalink fedilink source parent [–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago They're playing a really long game if so. Submarines like this weren't even conceived of yet when the Titanic went down, it'd take tremendous foresight to have set this up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) It's not a great theory. I'm pretty sure it would have made more money transporting passengers hundreds of times over permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) Built with shit from Home Depot, controlled with a literal Logitech game controller, construction pipes as ballast... holy fuck, why would anybody agree to go 3.7km below the surface of the ocean in that deathtrap? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) Imagine paying $250k and the pilot pulls out the player 2 controller permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SevenSwell@beehaw.org 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Those Logitech controllers are actually pretty decent. I've had one for ages and it's still going strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 years ago And it's easily replaceable in case of failure. Of all the design shortcuts this one isn't bad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago lmao for real. Couldn't even fork out for a first party controller. permalink fedilink source parent [–] patchymoose@rammy.site 4 points 3 years ago Jesus, is that really what they're using? 😳 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chrisosaur@startrek.website 9 points 3 years ago Hope the pilot tried ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️ start permalink fedilink source parent [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Made out of a fiberglass tube (catastrophic failure) and titanium end caps (cracks) instead of steel. “Steel is real.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Titanium cracks under pressure, I take it? Or is the join between the cap and the fiberglass body potentially more of a problem? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 10 points 3 years ago Everything cracks under pressure, I'm not exactly sure what the above commenter is getting at. If the sub was steel the walls would be thinner. With titanium the walls are thicker. Without knowing the dimensions of the material we can't know whether it was built to high enough standards. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZapBeebz@beehaw.org 8 points 3 years ago I mean, anything will crack under pressure. The biggest issue I see is uneven compression of the two materials coupled with different fatigue behaviors. I'd feel a lot safer if the whole submarine was titanium, honestly. Barring that, a couple inches of solid steel would be just as comforting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I would be worried about both. Joining two very different materials that need to deal with crazy pressures seems like a really bad idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BongRipsMcGee420@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago bUt iT wAs dEsIgNeD wItH NASA iNpUt permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Add temperature changes as you dive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Good point! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) Imagine paying $250k and the pilot pulls out the player 2 controller permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SevenSwell@beehaw.org 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Those Logitech controllers are actually pretty decent. I've had one for ages and it's still going strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 years ago And it's easily replaceable in case of failure. Of all the design shortcuts this one isn't bad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago lmao for real. Couldn't even fork out for a first party controller. permalink fedilink source parent [–] patchymoose@rammy.site 4 points 3 years ago Jesus, is that really what they're using? 😳 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SevenSwell@beehaw.org 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Those Logitech controllers are actually pretty decent. I've had one for ages and it's still going strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 years ago And it's easily replaceable in case of failure. Of all the design shortcuts this one isn't bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 years ago And it's easily replaceable in case of failure. Of all the design shortcuts this one isn't bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago lmao for real. Couldn't even fork out for a first party controller. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] patchymoose@rammy.site 4 points 3 years ago Jesus, is that really what they're using? 😳 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chrisosaur@startrek.website 9 points 3 years ago Hope the pilot tried ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️ start permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Made out of a fiberglass tube (catastrophic failure) and titanium end caps (cracks) instead of steel. “Steel is real.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Titanium cracks under pressure, I take it? Or is the join between the cap and the fiberglass body potentially more of a problem? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 10 points 3 years ago Everything cracks under pressure, I'm not exactly sure what the above commenter is getting at. If the sub was steel the walls would be thinner. With titanium the walls are thicker. Without knowing the dimensions of the material we can't know whether it was built to high enough standards. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZapBeebz@beehaw.org 8 points 3 years ago I mean, anything will crack under pressure. The biggest issue I see is uneven compression of the two materials coupled with different fatigue behaviors. I'd feel a lot safer if the whole submarine was titanium, honestly. Barring that, a couple inches of solid steel would be just as comforting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I would be worried about both. Joining two very different materials that need to deal with crazy pressures seems like a really bad idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BongRipsMcGee420@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago bUt iT wAs dEsIgNeD wItH NASA iNpUt permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Add temperature changes as you dive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Good point! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Titanium cracks under pressure, I take it? Or is the join between the cap and the fiberglass body potentially more of a problem? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 10 points 3 years ago Everything cracks under pressure, I'm not exactly sure what the above commenter is getting at. If the sub was steel the walls would be thinner. With titanium the walls are thicker. Without knowing the dimensions of the material we can't know whether it was built to high enough standards. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZapBeebz@beehaw.org 8 points 3 years ago I mean, anything will crack under pressure. The biggest issue I see is uneven compression of the two materials coupled with different fatigue behaviors. I'd feel a lot safer if the whole submarine was titanium, honestly. Barring that, a couple inches of solid steel would be just as comforting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I would be worried about both. Joining two very different materials that need to deal with crazy pressures seems like a really bad idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BongRipsMcGee420@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago bUt iT wAs dEsIgNeD wItH NASA iNpUt permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Add temperature changes as you dive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Good point! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 10 points 3 years ago Everything cracks under pressure, I'm not exactly sure what the above commenter is getting at. If the sub was steel the walls would be thinner. With titanium the walls are thicker. Without knowing the dimensions of the material we can't know whether it was built to high enough standards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZapBeebz@beehaw.org 8 points 3 years ago I mean, anything will crack under pressure. The biggest issue I see is uneven compression of the two materials coupled with different fatigue behaviors. I'd feel a lot safer if the whole submarine was titanium, honestly. Barring that, a couple inches of solid steel would be just as comforting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I would be worried about both. Joining two very different materials that need to deal with crazy pressures seems like a really bad idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BongRipsMcGee420@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago bUt iT wAs dEsIgNeD wItH NASA iNpUt permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Add temperature changes as you dive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Good point! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BongRipsMcGee420@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago bUt iT wAs dEsIgNeD wItH NASA iNpUt permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Add temperature changes as you dive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Good point! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demvoter@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (2 children) Wow, that is super sketchy. Now I am not at all surprised this happened. Hope that company has a shit ton of insurance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xxxfroggyxxx@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Also, I’ve seen so many Scientific deepwater vehicles that are thethered to the ship in some form. Why isn’t this thing hooked up to a cran yhat can get it back up if someone fails? I’d think passenger vessels should pass more rigurous safety standards than that. Are they liable btw or is the “international waters” situation doing them any favor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 3 years ago I seem to recall a point in that CBS video where they had to sign a waiver stating among other things that they acknowledged it was an experimental vessel that is not certified by or approved any regulatory agency, so, yeah. I don't know that I'd count on there being rigorous safely standards in that case permalink fedilink source parent [–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) There was a conspiracy that the original titanic going down was an insurance scam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 12 points 3 years ago (2 children) There's also a conspiracy that my farts smell like rancid carrots because the government puts carrots up my butt while I'm sleeping permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago Why aren't more people talking about big carrot? Wake up sheeple permalink fedilink source parent [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago Absolutely ridiculous. It's huge international mega-corporations doing that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mobyduck648@beehaw.org 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) An easily disproved one too, as the sister ships weren’t actually identical. Also the recent scan on the ship revealed the hull number 401 on one of the propellers putting another nail in the coffin of the idea the ship is actually the Olympic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlueDiamond@rammy.site 3 points 3 years ago Oh i hate that stupid theory. That's like top tier "looking for a conspiracy because we've got nothing better to do" permalink fedilink source parent [–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago They're playing a really long game if so. Submarines like this weren't even conceived of yet when the Titanic went down, it'd take tremendous foresight to have set this up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) It's not a great theory. I'm pretty sure it would have made more money transporting passengers hundreds of times over permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xxxfroggyxxx@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Also, I’ve seen so many Scientific deepwater vehicles that are thethered to the ship in some form. Why isn’t this thing hooked up to a cran yhat can get it back up if someone fails? I’d think passenger vessels should pass more rigurous safety standards than that. Are they liable btw or is the “international waters” situation doing them any favor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 3 years ago I seem to recall a point in that CBS video where they had to sign a waiver stating among other things that they acknowledged it was an experimental vessel that is not certified by or approved any regulatory agency, so, yeah. I don't know that I'd count on there being rigorous safely standards in that case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 3 years ago I seem to recall a point in that CBS video where they had to sign a waiver stating among other things that they acknowledged it was an experimental vessel that is not certified by or approved any regulatory agency, so, yeah. I don't know that I'd count on there being rigorous safely standards in that case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) There was a conspiracy that the original titanic going down was an insurance scam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 12 points 3 years ago (2 children) There's also a conspiracy that my farts smell like rancid carrots because the government puts carrots up my butt while I'm sleeping permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago Why aren't more people talking about big carrot? Wake up sheeple permalink fedilink source parent [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago Absolutely ridiculous. It's huge international mega-corporations doing that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mobyduck648@beehaw.org 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) An easily disproved one too, as the sister ships weren’t actually identical. Also the recent scan on the ship revealed the hull number 401 on one of the propellers putting another nail in the coffin of the idea the ship is actually the Olympic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlueDiamond@rammy.site 3 points 3 years ago Oh i hate that stupid theory. That's like top tier "looking for a conspiracy because we've got nothing better to do" permalink fedilink source parent [–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago They're playing a really long game if so. Submarines like this weren't even conceived of yet when the Titanic went down, it'd take tremendous foresight to have set this up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) It's not a great theory. I'm pretty sure it would have made more money transporting passengers hundreds of times over permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 12 points 3 years ago (2 children) There's also a conspiracy that my farts smell like rancid carrots because the government puts carrots up my butt while I'm sleeping permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago Why aren't more people talking about big carrot? Wake up sheeple permalink fedilink source parent [–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago Absolutely ridiculous. It's huge international mega-corporations doing that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago Why aren't more people talking about big carrot? Wake up sheeple permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago Absolutely ridiculous. It's huge international mega-corporations doing that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mobyduck648@beehaw.org 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) An easily disproved one too, as the sister ships weren’t actually identical. Also the recent scan on the ship revealed the hull number 401 on one of the propellers putting another nail in the coffin of the idea the ship is actually the Olympic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BlueDiamond@rammy.site 3 points 3 years ago Oh i hate that stupid theory. That's like top tier "looking for a conspiracy because we've got nothing better to do" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlueDiamond@rammy.site 3 points 3 years ago Oh i hate that stupid theory. That's like top tier "looking for a conspiracy because we've got nothing better to do" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago They're playing a really long game if so. Submarines like this weren't even conceived of yet when the Titanic went down, it'd take tremendous foresight to have set this up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) It's not a great theory. I'm pretty sure it would have made more money transporting passengers hundreds of times over permalink fedilink source parent