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[–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To be fair, this is denying government subsidies, which is more of a free market than giving subsidies. This is especially true for Chinese companies, since they are by definition state-owned.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    This is US car companies using their paid off politicians to make the US pressure another country into not making a deal that would increase competition in that market to their detriment .That's many layers of fuckery deeper.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is it that if they're just blocking the vehicles that are subsidized? Let's see what these EVs sell for without the Chinese government paying half the production costs.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Everything you said is true, except you are missing the context that this is for-profit US car companies not wanting to compete against state-owned car manufacturers who get all of their money from China and can take huge losses in order to outsell for-profit, private entities.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Except every other company gets subsidies, so this is specific and not "fait market".

    The current fair market for EV manufacturers includes getting a buttload of incentives from governments.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    There can be no market that is both "free" and "fair"

    For a market to be fair there needs to be constraints in the right places

    In this case the lack of constraints sufficiently restricting the ability for companies to pressure (read as bribe) politicians to push for a lack of subsides for specific sectors of an industry

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    These vehicles would also be eligible for those subsidies if they meet the criteria of being assembled from mostly North American parts. You're comparing subsidies available for every company meeting certain criteria (even these Chinese companies) versus subsidies available only to those companies owned by the Chinese government.

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