▲ 943 ▼ Portuguese tourist assaulted by Turkish police, jailed for 20 days for "looking gay" (www.gerceknews.com) submitted 3 years ago by Odusei@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 40 points 3 years ago (2 children) I classify Turkey with Iran. Don't go there. Unfortunately my list for no-go is growing permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (4 children) I wouldn't be so hasty. The middle east, including Turkey, are some of the most culturally rich places to visit. In general, the Arab people are extremely hospitable. There has been civilization in the area for thousands of years and many fascinating antiquities remain. Turkey in particular has a longstanding secular tradition that was started a hundred years ago by Kemal Ataturk, only recently eroded by the religious conservatives. I wouldn't let a few thuggish people put you off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd agree, but given that those few thuggish people in the Middle East seem to be setting policy that includes beating people for looking gay all the way up to beheadings, it might be beast to avoid it for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think it makes sense to go anywhere completely whimsically. Times change and caution is prudent. Nobody is taking the silk road through Afghanistan any more but it was once a popular route, for example. However, I believe in the goodness of people. Most people just wanna be happy, kindness and respect goes a long way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago True, most people are willing to live and let live, but a lot of places have people where you won't know what you're dealing with until its too late. And I'm not even talking about the middle east specifically. permalink fedilink source parent [+] hamid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] visak@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago The problem is the thuggish people seem to be in charge these days. The people I met in Turkey when I visited long ago were indeed kind though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) We have Turkish people where I live. I don't need to go to a place that does that sorta thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I was telling my friend that I took my wife to the Carribbean. Jamaica? No, she came of her own accord. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sarla@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (3 children) Is France on that list too then? They tear gas people for having a contrary opinion to the state after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago France is immune to that list, because I live there :/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Le Whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [+] stappern@lemmy.one -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (4 children) I wouldn't be so hasty. The middle east, including Turkey, are some of the most culturally rich places to visit. In general, the Arab people are extremely hospitable. There has been civilization in the area for thousands of years and many fascinating antiquities remain. Turkey in particular has a longstanding secular tradition that was started a hundred years ago by Kemal Ataturk, only recently eroded by the religious conservatives. I wouldn't let a few thuggish people put you off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd agree, but given that those few thuggish people in the Middle East seem to be setting policy that includes beating people for looking gay all the way up to beheadings, it might be beast to avoid it for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think it makes sense to go anywhere completely whimsically. Times change and caution is prudent. Nobody is taking the silk road through Afghanistan any more but it was once a popular route, for example. However, I believe in the goodness of people. Most people just wanna be happy, kindness and respect goes a long way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago True, most people are willing to live and let live, but a lot of places have people where you won't know what you're dealing with until its too late. And I'm not even talking about the middle east specifically. permalink fedilink source parent [+] hamid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] visak@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago The problem is the thuggish people seem to be in charge these days. The people I met in Turkey when I visited long ago were indeed kind though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) We have Turkish people where I live. I don't need to go to a place that does that sorta thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I was telling my friend that I took my wife to the Carribbean. Jamaica? No, she came of her own accord. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd agree, but given that those few thuggish people in the Middle East seem to be setting policy that includes beating people for looking gay all the way up to beheadings, it might be beast to avoid it for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think it makes sense to go anywhere completely whimsically. Times change and caution is prudent. Nobody is taking the silk road through Afghanistan any more but it was once a popular route, for example. However, I believe in the goodness of people. Most people just wanna be happy, kindness and respect goes a long way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago True, most people are willing to live and let live, but a lot of places have people where you won't know what you're dealing with until its too late. And I'm not even talking about the middle east specifically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think it makes sense to go anywhere completely whimsically. Times change and caution is prudent. Nobody is taking the silk road through Afghanistan any more but it was once a popular route, for example. However, I believe in the goodness of people. Most people just wanna be happy, kindness and respect goes a long way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago True, most people are willing to live and let live, but a lot of places have people where you won't know what you're dealing with until its too late. And I'm not even talking about the middle east specifically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago True, most people are willing to live and let live, but a lot of places have people where you won't know what you're dealing with until its too late. And I'm not even talking about the middle east specifically. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] hamid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] visak@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago The problem is the thuggish people seem to be in charge these days. The people I met in Turkey when I visited long ago were indeed kind though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) We have Turkish people where I live. I don't need to go to a place that does that sorta thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I was telling my friend that I took my wife to the Carribbean. Jamaica? No, she came of her own accord. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I was telling my friend that I took my wife to the Carribbean. Jamaica? No, she came of her own accord. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sarla@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (3 children) Is France on that list too then? They tear gas people for having a contrary opinion to the state after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago France is immune to that list, because I live there :/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Le Whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [+] stappern@lemmy.one -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago France is immune to that list, because I live there :/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Le Whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent
[+] stappern@lemmy.one -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent