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[+] 93 points 3 years ago (10 children)
  • [–] [S] 20 points 3 years ago (21 children)

    Wait, what? Beehaw is defederated? I still see lots of post from Beehaw on my feed.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago

    The mods announced it today. There’s a giant pinned thread on Beehaw about it.

    I tried making posts here on my Beehaw account and I could see them while logged into Beehaw but not when logged into Lemmy.world. Also some of my posts had comments from Beehaw people vanish all at once. My older posts from the Beehaw account are still visible, so I think some posts/comments remain visible if they happened before defederation.

    I’m not sure which levers the mods there are pulling because the effects do seem inconsistent, and the mods seem in a bit of a frenzy trying to figure it out themselves.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Federation is a two-way connection. Beehaw shut off the incoming stream, essentially, so anyone commenting or posting on spaces from that instance will not be seen by users logged into Beehaw. However, the outgoing stream is still active so anything posted there that you subscribe to or visit from another instance can still be seen. Users on other instances can even comment in those threads, but users on Beehaw would not see those comments.

    For me it helps to think of the instance you are logged into as the place you trust the most. Content from other sources can always come in, but you can choose to simply not see things you don't want. This is a fundamental part of how the Fediverse works, for better or worse.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    That's interesting. What happens if a lemmy user replies to a beehaw user's comment from a lemmy instance? Does the beehaw user just never see it?

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, but small correction: Beehaw only defederated from two specific instances of Lemmy, not the entire system. If you were engaging with a Beehaw community from lemmy.one or other instances that Beehaw is still federated with, everyone sees everything on both sides.

    Also, if the Beehaw user really wanted to engage with the lemmy.world or other defederated instances, nothing is stopping them form creating an account on that instance (or any other instance federated with the desired community) and commenting or posting from there.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Exactly. Am no longer using my lemmy.world account. I made a kbin one first, before I realised that Jerboa didn't support it. So now I have three accounts.

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    [–] 27 points 3 years ago

    It gets more confusing when the instance you joined decides to unfederate and half of your subs stop working! Then you have to join a new instance and start over because subs nor usernames carry over.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Do you have a grasp of the fediverse now?

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It was confusing at first

    The confusion never went away. Beehaw defederated, so I understand that you would then have to create a specific Beehaw account in order to engage with Beehaw communities, but why would I want to as a Lemmy.world user, is what I'm confused about.

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    [+] 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)
    [–] 15 points 3 years ago

    I have like three now, because it wasn't clear that that wasn't required. I think I'm getting it more now, but it's taking a bit to get there.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    As of now I have an account on lemmy.world and kbin.social

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    [–] 13 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I have no idea whats going on

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    [–] 13 points 3 years ago

    i need a tutorial

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago

    Nope, still confusing

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (17 children)

    And this is why you roll your own instance just for auth

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    [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    I hope this place gets better with time.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Reminds me of the good old days creating a different identity for each forum I signed up at.

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    [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    New here, does it mean my username propagated to other instances?

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    [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    I will stick to only one account. Too much accounts are pain.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    Lol. I can barely figure out one.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    So, I’ve a question. Is there a back button?
    I’ll select something from my feed, but then get stuck having to then go all the way back and scroll all the way back down to where I left off.

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    [–] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Yes, you have to create an account on every instance that exists and always use that account to interact with that instance.

    If you keep a central account, one day you will anger the wrong person and they will blacklist you off the entire fediverse, losing all relationships and history to overcome ostracisation.

    I even consider making a new account per instance per month. Maybe the process could be automated too.

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    [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    I have 2 with the idea that if my home instance went down I’d still be able to see what’s going on. Not that I’m concerned about a mass failure, more for like server maintenance downtimes.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Lmao I did this, but for Mastodon. Mastodon kinda helped me to understand the concept a better

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