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"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron."
1 Timothy 4:1-2
If those cultists could read they'd be very upset right now.
Okay, but this could describe any number of presidents, kings, and high priests.
Yeah, that's the point. Don't worship politicians, kings, and priests. Or anyone for that matter, except God... I'm atheist though, so not even "God" in my opinion.
the only worship i do is of my girlfriends body.
Sure. But I see this stuff lobbed at damned near every high profile figure, from Hollywood celebrities to Presidents to Popes.
Some base of mega-fans get attention for going off the edge, and suddenly any vote for Obama or tickets to the next Beyonce concert means you've been corrupted by evil brain demons. This quote gets abused to imply everything popular is an abandonment of faith or a form of idolatry.
It leads you to the "I only need to read one book" style of evangelicalism. I'm not a fan, even if it gets espoused by an atheist who pivots to "And even God doesn't count".
And probably was. That passage was from a letter to early Christians, and was likely in response to a perceived issue already present at the time.
I was gonna write that I've met my favorite Christians posting liberal comments on the Internet. Then I remembered I have practicing friends in real life, and we're friends bc of our shared liberal values. And that being Christian doesn't make you a douche, imposing your will on others and voting for the devil make you a douche.
It’s a cult.
I think it's very telling that major predictors for whether a Christian will be a Trump supporter include how often they go to church and how frequently they study the bible. Those who attend church regularly and study scripture regularly are significantly less likely to support Trump than those who rarely or never do either.
One obvious explanation for this is that, well, Trump's actions, statements and overall sleaze are not exactly compatible with the apparently "woke agenda" of things like the sermon on the mount. Loving your enemies, turning the other cheek, being humble and serving others without taking credit, that's all just kind of the exact opposite of the self absorbed, petty, hateful, arrogant mindset that Trump and MAGA are all about. And that's without bringing actual policies into this, which is never going to look good for Trump given what the bible has to say about the rich, the poor, and the way we should treat others, including immigrants and refugees.
On the flipside, when you claim to be religious but don't have a church or scripture providing any external guidance, you can easily define your religious beliefs as you see fit. It's as simple as knowing that God wants you to stand for what's right. And of course, you know what's right, it's all those things you believe in. Which means God wants what you want. So, because you know Trump is the greatest leader we've ever had, that vaccines are bad, that we need to kick all those damn [insert ethnic slur here]s out, and boot all those lazy freeloaders off of welfare, that God stands for those things too, and anyone who opposes is evil and a servant of the devil.
Where did you get that stat about church attendance and its effect on Trump support?
They finally realized that Jesus wasn't going to show back up.
What they didn't realize was that it's because of their behavior.
I can see God wanting to smite trump and supporters but Jesus is standing next to him saying, "But Dad, I just died for them."
This is true, because nobody so perfectly embodies how hypocritical Christianity is than DJT. That all of their professed beliefs go right out the window as soon as somebody as convenient as Trump comes along, someone who completely contradicts all of their beliefs, is just indicative of what kind of faith Christianity is.
You may not like it, but this is what peak Christianity looks like.
Trump’s claims that he has a mandate from God should not be a surprise or in any way shocking
No it shouldn't because he called himself The Chosen One in 2019.
Then, while speaking to reporters on Wednesday about his efforts to take on China's trade practices, Trump pointed at the sky and said, "I am the chosen one."
Yes, chosen by the Russian government.
Kompromat says what?
Couldn't think of anything or anyone less Christian.
Or, maybe Christianity isn't what you thought it was.
The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself. — Richard Francis Burton
The orange antichrist.
The best antichrist!
God has a documented propensity toward sending plagues, yes.
Fuck.
That's a lot of words to say that rubes gonna rube. These are the same people that believe in prosperity gospels and faith healing.
The whole ad seems to be a ripoff of a Paul Harvey speech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_God_Made_a_Farmer
Harvey's wikipedia page describes him as a close friend of Joseph McCarthy, Billy Graham, and J. Edgar Hoover.
Trump is a self-absorbed megalomaniacal bigot with a fixation on wealth... which is pretty much on brand for the god of Abraham and his churches.
Because they’re mentally defective backward degenerates.
An anti-Christian idol for anti-Christians, he is.
Doesn't help that churches are pushing political ideologies onto their flocks. Granted, those churchgoers probably already held Trump in high regard thanks to years of brainwashing from Fox. Trump meets all the decriptions of the antichrist and they follow him without a question asked. Religious nutjobs are frightening.
among the white religious right
The weligious white?
Ya know, the more I see of his bs the more I believe that the writers of the original Omen movies back in the 70’s were predicting this. In the movies Damien was the anti-Christ, I’m not religious btw, who ascended to power by private business and became a world leader.
Hey jesus man. You really let yourself go!
God gave conservatives Trump, then he cupped his mouth toward the camera and said, "get a load of these people! Wocka wocka!"
So heres the experts explanation
"My question is why so many people love him and turn him into their Pied Piper."
My not-so-expert opinion is that someone who really and truly believes there is an all-powerful invisible man in the sky who watches their every move is more likely to be swayed by a cult using the same trappings.