Smartphone manufacturers still want to make foldables a thing::Foldables are barely 1% of the market, but that's not stopping anyone but Apple.

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[–] 149 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I love the foldable idea, but it's well beyond what I'm willing to pay for the novelty.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Same! I had the LG v60 dual screen case, and loved it. Thats the farthest I'm willing to go, though. It was unwieldy, and almost impossible to use a popsocket with, no way to use a wallet case, et cetera. It's not worth that price tag for less options just for the occasional use of a bigger screen.

    Now, foldable tablet? That's something I'd be down for (in theory. I am poor.). Closes up small enough for a pocket, folds out when you use it. Only screen on one side, so it can tossed in a bag without worrying about it, because it's closed up and the screen is protected.

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    [–] 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Well then maybe don't charge me 3 months' rent for one?

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    But that's why they want foldable phones to be a thing.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And why the market took a dive. Phones were 200-300. Then the iPhones and Galaxy's jumped them to 500-700. Now any top tier is 1000 plus and people's income has not compensated. As well as the rest of the crap you need to have all those new phones.

    They are completely out of touch with normal everyday working people's incomes and financial needs.

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    [–] 50 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Once they are cheaper and more durable I'll buy one. Its still a new form factor that hasn't been perfected yet, but that doesn't mean its wrong for manufacturers to keep at it

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I've been daily driving a folding phone for about 3 years now, and honest to God I'll never buy a normal phone again. It's a laptop, tablet, phone, and notepad (stylus) all in one. I couldn't imagine going back.

    Also, being able to open two full screen apps side by side becomes essential after you start to rely on it for work.

    I get that they are expensive, but the price will come down eventually and the form factor is game changing from a usability perspective.

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  • [+] 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    I've never tried a folding phone but to me it seems like a jack of all trades, master of none. The 4:3 aspect ratio, black bars on basically all videos, and easily damaged screen seem like big negatives.

    I'd be interested to see if I'm wrong if I ever get a chance to use one.

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    I wish they would put a proper keyboard on a phone again. There's dozens of people like me who misses those things, why is nobody doing it?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Totally agree. The smartphone market is wayyy to homogenous. All they compete over is price and what alphanumeric digits the chips contain. Give us foldables, sliders, cheap phones, high end phones, phones full of ports, small phones, and big phones. This is what the phone market used to be about until the mid '10s

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I don't give a flying fuck about foldable screens, give me a real keyboard. The bottom half of one of these flippable screens could totally fit rows of physical buttons!

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'll trade you my 3D TV for one.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm on a Fold 4, never going back. There are certainly a few tweaks here and there that could improve it, but a tablet that you put back in your pocket when you are done is the perfect phone so far. I don't know what they would have to do to make something better than this, but I'm sure something will come along. Until then, not going back to a phone that can only be bar shaped.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    What do people use tablets for? I really wanted to come up with an excuse to get one but no matter how hard I thought about it I couldn't come up with a use case (for me at least). I want my phone to be smaller, not bigger.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Honestly, there's a completely unfulfilled market for smart phones with physical keyboards right now and fuck capitalism for not meeting this need more efficiently

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I have a Pixel Fold and I hate it. It's heavy, almost no third party apps are compatible with the square aspect ratio of the inner screen, and when you consume media there are massive black borders due to said aspect ratio that makes the viewable space the same as a regular phone. There's literally no point to these things.

    I see why Apple never jumped on board. I can't wait until August when I can get rid of this damn phone.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I've been using the z flip 4 for over a year now. I think that is what it's called... I won't go back. The foldable phone is awesome.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    I've got my Fold 3 and it's amazing. Are there compromises? Absolutely. Are they worth it, also yes.

    I've always been the type to upgrade my phone every year, but I'm thoroughly satisfied with this device after 2 years, and don't see myself replacing it anytime soon.

    The biggest thing foldables need now isn't new features and spec bumps. What they need is a significant price cut.

    Full-size foldable phones still costing $1800 5 years in is why they're such a tiny market share.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Man I just want a FOSS version of the DS.

    Clamshell dual screen has so many advantages.

    Even sliding keyboard was great

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I love my flip phone. I'd love a phone with a hardware keyboard even more, but at least a folding flip phone is interesting in a sea of rectangles.

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You can take my foldable out of my cold dead hands!

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think foldables have found a niche market at the moment. People buy them, just not in the quantities the companies might want.

    The main reasons for this are Samsung being stagnant on its innovation with foldables (Z flip 5 notwithstanding), much of the competition being limited to China only or aren't being marketed at all, and the book style foldables all being overpriced (they still MSRP for $1700-$1800 plus 1000% storage markups, they should be aiming for a $1200-$1300 MSRP).

    Here in the US, we have:

    The usual Samsung foldables: The Z flip 5 which is a great device at on okay price, and I've seen a few of these (or the previous gens), notable because 85% of the devices I see are iPhones. The Z Fold 5 is stagnant and overpriced.

    Pixel Fold: Hahahahaha it can't even last a week before the screen dies lol lol haha

    Moto Razr Flip 40 and its variations: Nobody knows that these phones exist, and the ones who do struggle to even find a place to buy the phone. On Amazon listing for the US version is blended with the international listings and is often out of stock, and Motorola's website gives me an error when I try to get to the buying process on its phones. Also there's like 3 different versions of this phone Real shame, because they are good phones for a great price if you can stomach the poor battery life.

    OnePlus Open: Possibly the most innovative phone of 2023, this phone 1-ups the Z Fold line in nearly every way, although it's still pricey. But again, basically nobody has even heard of this brand, much less this phone. They just believe Samsung is the only one that makes foldables while they choose to buy the latest iPhone.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Thinking of that one guy that lost their foldable to a grain of salt after eating something in the train while watching a movie on it and then closing the phone... I hope they never get a real thing

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I still haven't seen a legitimate use case for a flip phone that is 100% screen on the inside.

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This article seems to only talk about the ones that fold like a book, and not on the ones that fold like a clam. I don't get the fixtation on that design - at this point it's more of a tablet than a phone, and for a tablet it's pretty small. When opened, the Samsung Z Flip has the dimensions of a smartphone - which means you can put it to your ear or operate it with one hand. You can't do that with the Z Fold - it's too wide. Also, the Samsung Z Flip costs half as much as the Z Fold - which is still not cheap, but it's not that much more expensive than Samsung's regular flagship phone with the same specs. So I assume affordable flip smartphones should be possible - maybe not this year, but probably soon enough.

    Z Flips sell twice as much as Z Folds - all while Samsung is spending most of the marketing effort on pushing the Fold. Maybe if they focused on the Flip instead they could have made this one "a thing"?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The tablet thing is the point I like about my foldable phone. I couldn't be bothered to carry a tablet with me, but the Fold fits in my pocket without any issues and I love the bigger screen. If I have to use my phone with one hand, I just use the outside screen (which to be fair hasn't the best aspect ratio).

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