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Smartphone manufacturers still want to make foldables a thing::Foldables are barely 1% of the market, but that's not stopping anyone but Apple.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm on a Fold 4, never going back. There are certainly a few tweaks here and there that could improve it, but a tablet that you put back in your pocket when you are done is the perfect phone so far. I don't know what they would have to do to make something better than this, but I'm sure something will come along. Until then, not going back to a phone that can only be bar shaped.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (7 children)

What do people use tablets for? I really wanted to come up with an excuse to get one but no matter how hard I thought about it I couldn't come up with a use case (for me at least). I want my phone to be smaller, not bigger.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm studying at the moment, so I do a -lot- of research. A tablet + stylus is perfect for me for taking notes on top of lecture slides and reading / annotating pdfs. A folding form factor would be really useful for me, so I wouldn't have to carry around a second device.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Got it. That's the exact reason I got a folding laptop with a stylus. Annotating and highlighting in pdfs with a pen and typing on a proper keyboard. Once you get used to carry a bag (I used to hate doing that) a smaller laptop can hitch a ride for free.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The only advantage I see are movies, but then again for a static display I can just use my laptop or a TV.

I guess gaming could be something, if you're into that. Personally all those microtransaction BS makes me steer clear of wanting any games on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tablets are cheaper and lighter than laptops so if someone just wants to watch videos while traveling or commuting, a tablet is often a better option than a laptop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What not get a tablet/ laptop hybrid. Two birds one stone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's a tablet with a keyboard case

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Well no. Like the Microsoft surface. It's a laptop that can be hard as tablet. As powerful enough to do plenty of computer tasks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Imo movies on anything smaller than 40" with a sweet sound system is blasphemy.

And I don't play many games these days but when I do it's on a proper PC for pretty much the same reason (plus the micro transactions as you mentioned).

Also, touchscreens drive me nuts for anything more advanced than like browsing Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's nice for the few non shitty games that also scale well on the display.

Also watching videos while doing chores, quite convenient.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How are you watching videos while doing chores?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Dishes being an obvious one, just looking up every now an then, I mostly listen/watch long form yt

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I have 2 uses for a tablet, and know 2 other uses. They're pretty niche.

  1. you can use it to get AT&T to sell you an unlimited 5g data sim for $20 a month and pop that into a hotspot if you need to work while being driven in a car or in more locations than there's necessarily easy or cheap wifi.

  2. Reading Manga / Comics. I do read some on my phone, but the ability to see the "full page" on a 6.7" phone aspect narrow screen vs a 10" wider aspect tablet screen is surprisingly large, and my eyes are getting worse, not better as I age. Teeny tiny is not the best experience.

  3. Using them as cheaper wacom tablets for drawing / artists.

  4. Work provided portable tools for all sorts of stuff that doesn't have any SIM or monthly fee needed / requested, and something that inherently isn't a phone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I thought the same but they're great for using at home. My wife watches movies on it in the kitchen, my kid loves it for games, I like it for controlling house stuff like IoT, smart home stuff, and apps for home electronics. It's not too different from smart watches where you don't need anything it offers, but it makes things more convenient.

Now the people who take their tablet to Disneyland to take pictures are just plain crazy and shouldn't be lumped in with the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

For me it was mainly gaming. Can run two full apps, both in real time, not that thing where it suspends one with a static image when you touch the other one. They both actually run at the same time, full frame rate. The fold 4 in tablet mode "wide" screen is pretty close to 4:3, so it's nice for emulating console and computer games from that era, which I do alot. And the tablet in tall mode is a great size/shape for reading, can even leave it slightly folded down the middle for the real book feel, lol. And the battery life they manage to pack into both halves of the phone is pretty great. But most importantly, putting it back in my pocket when not using it. Carrying even a small tablet around all day would not be awesome otherwise.

I should mention I am 6'4" with relatively large hands, so fold 4 still feels pretty small to me, before I got the handle case I had to make due with palming it when I wanted to hold it one-handed. It's decently comfortable for me to palm it in vertical tablet mode, but horizontal tablet mode while still possible, wasn't comfortable. But with the handle case, it would be comfortable for almost anyone to hold it with one hand.

One of the things I was most worried about was that the screen crease would be visible, or that it would get annoying to play games where you gotta move your finger accross it. Luckily, the crease isn't visible when you are straight head-on with the screen, only when you try to show other people stuff on your phone, lol. And even after more than a year of not treating the phone as anything special, the crease isn't annoying to my fingers either. The original built-in screen protector did peel off from folding the phone alot when it was cold out(Canada), but I normally don't use screen protectors, so I just left it unprotected. Not really sure what you have to do to your phone to benefit from screen protectors, I don't baby mine, but I've never had a scratch. And screen protectors just feel so much worse to use than the naked screen does.

Might be a good time to mention I am autistic and hypersensory, so there is nothing mild about mildly annoying things to me, lol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, it sounds like a good device for you then. Personally I want to be able to use my phone with one hand, so I want to be able to reach the entire screen with the thumb of the hand that is holding the bare phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

It has the outer screen too for when you want a one-hander. Though you'd have to go with either fold 5 or one of the other brands to get a better outer screen, fold 4 and lower were not particularly useful there. Too skinny. I pretty much only ever use the outer screen for actual phone calls. You can transition from tablet to phone while already having answered the call with no issues.

And as with all larger phones, you always have the option of going into "one-handed mode" using whatever shortcut you assigned(either diagonal swipe or triple tap home are the defaults). It's less necessary when you just have the option of a smaller one handed screen on the outside, but still there if you'd rather that option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I tried using it for a few months. too many compromises to battery life, the main screen crease etc. just sitting in the closet now. I'll check back when diverging actually good comes out. flop 4

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tablets are much better than phones at trying to do things that are meant to be done in a full computer, while being much more more portable than computers. It'll never be as good as PCs but to some people that's not a big price to pay for the portability.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think people like tablets a lot more than virtual desktops judging by the sales numbers.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

True. But more so you need companies to get into it. They are the ones buying. Plus you would computer-literate staff to get a router with the capability to run a secure VPN. I don't even know if it's possible. I don't see why not. But maybe bandwidth isn't capable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Same. It seems to fall into the niche crack.

Maybe to watch things if you don't have a tv. Maybe to play games again without tv. Portable if you move around a lot.

I can't justify the price for a large screen. I have a larger screen. It's the tv. I have a work laptop and I have a phone.

If anything I'd be pushing for work laptop to disappear. If I could get a virtual computer. I just need a screen to use. Already got a monitor plus wireless keyboard and mouse.

Virtue desktops should be the future