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American cluster bombs have only 2% failure rate. Given that Ukrainian lands are full of ruSSian mines, could cluster bombs be used for demining fields? Sappers would have much less work to do with defusing only those 2% which failed to explode.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes and no, but no, it's not worth it, we have demining cluster-mortars designed for this that work fine and should have fewer side effects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine-clearing_line_charge

The main reason you don't use cms is that a: you need a long but not wide corridor usually (arty makes this harder) and 2: with cms you're replacing enemy mines with friendly mines which isn't always what you want.

Also cms are more expensive in logistics for distance/depth cleared.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the friendly mines are friendly! They are kind to you when taking off your leg and they never lie to you!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Just turn off friendly fire smh

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

with cms you're replacing enemy mines with friendly mines which isn't always what you want.

But they're friendly. It says so right there in the name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They will sing you sweet lullabies while they confiscate your legs. Couldn't reasonably ask for more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I was listening a podcast about Ukraine using MCLCs and I thought that potential use of CMS for humanitarian/defensive reasons is noncredible enough to be posted here :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both Russians and Ukrainians have used artillery for demining purposes. It’s effectiveness is a matter of fierce debate. Cluster munitions would likely be at least somewhat better for this purpose then unitary warheads would be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Except cluster munitiont would be terrible to use for demining, as the duds (around 2%) are pretty much new mines, so after a shot, there are probably only more mines to get rid of.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't cluster bombs meant to be illegal? :P

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why do you want to criminalize having fun?