The Stanford Prison Experiment, one of the most famous and compelling psychological studies of all time, told us a tantalizingly simple story about human nature.

The study took paid participants and assigned them to be “inmates” or “guards” in a mock prison at Stanford University. Soon after the experiment began, the “guards” began mistreating the “prisoners,” implying evil is brought out by circumstance. The authors, in their conclusions, suggested innocent people, thrown into a situation where they have power over others, will begin to abuse that power. And people who are put into a situation where they are powerless will be driven to submission, even madness.

The Stanford Prison Experiment has been included in many, many introductory psychology textbooks and is often cited uncritically. It’s the subject of movies, documentaries, books, television shows, and congressional testimony.

But its findings were wrong. Very wrong. And not just due to its questionable ethics or lack of concrete data — but because of deceit.

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[–] 124 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

"We just learned" is a bit of a stretch. Here is a Medium post from 2020, which cites previous interviews and Jon Ronson's 2015 book "So You've Been Publicly Shamed," that explains the problems with the infamous experiment: https://medium.com/invisible-illness/have-we-gotten-the-stanford-prison-experiment-all-wrong-fad09471e79c

Edit: Ah, title is straight from the Vox title, and that article is from 2018

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yo mods, we really could use a tag for articles that are old. In this case, half a decade!

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    down vote is all I got. down and scroll. liberal ad/script blocking. Firefox has this reading mode. If that doesn't work I usually skip the whole site. can't sit here all day and delete trash. let op know your displeasure and hope they try harder in the future. obvious spam gets trashed on site. you can read any account's post history by visiting their profile.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Have we not known this for decades?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    They didn't even know what a control group was; "fraud" may be giving it too much credit

    The experiment was little more than a political demonstration and I can confirm that was "old news" to my professors in the late '00s

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    I always thought Philip Zimbardo and his dyed goatee looked like they were right out of a Reno magic show. I guess Zimbardo was more of an illusionist than most people actually realized.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    We just learned? The article is from 2018. OP are you dumb?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    You're Wrong About did a solid deep dive into this one. ( On buzzsprout )

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I get that this is yesterday's news, but I did not hear of this development in 2018 when the article came out. So for me this is a "Today I learned" (even if it's old news for everyone else).

    I learned about the Stanford Prison Experiment from the crappy German movie "The Experiment" they made in 2001 and then listened to some interviews by Zimbardo around 2006 or so.

    In fact, though the linked Vox article provides several examples of experiments that cannot be well reproduced, it is interesting that the Wikipedia article says Zimbardo is still very much convinced his experiment is sound (at least he still was in 2018).

    Edit: fixed grammar

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Everything you learned about the Milgram experiment is bullshit too.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    paying the bills not

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