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[–] 26 points 6 hours ago

Epic AI Disney Shooter.

It's like the four horsemen of the acrapolipse.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 hours ago

    Some projects are banning AI code

    And then there's Tim, banning human code

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  • [–] 67 points 10 hours ago (16 children)

    lol holy fuck, this is going to be amazingly entertaining to watch crash and burn

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  • [+] -21 points 10 hours ago (15 children)

    This will be extremely painful unless you live in a very smart and protected community.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 hours ago (13 children)

    What…?

    I’m talking about watching Epic footgun theirselves into irrelevance and likely bankruptcy. What did you think I was talking about?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago (12 children)

    I'm not sure everyone is as anti AI as foljs on Lemmy. But I do see a general dislike for AI art, so they may be able to pull off AI-made logic, but if they use AI art, they will meet sime resistance

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  • [–] 25 points 9 hours ago (9 children)

    Cuck coded games and launchers are demonstrably awful.

    If you don’t understand why forbidding your employees to write any code manually as a matter of corporate policy is a deeply stupid idea, I feel pretty confident in saying that you’re clearly not a software engineer.

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  • [+] -19 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

    You have no clue what is or isn’t being developed with AI. That’s a fact.

    Enjoy the easy dunks if you must, but I would argue that most of the software you use today is being developed alongside AI.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)
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    So I can point at any software, and you can tell me whether it’s clean and blessed and pure vs coded with AI?

    Meme all you want if that helps you cope

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  • [–] 5 points 5 hours ago* (1 child)

    With a reasonable degree of accuracy, in most cases, yes, I can. I have been doing this for damn near 20 years.

    I cannot overemphasize how little I care about your opinion or pithy retorts.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 hours ago

    Companies have been very forthcoming with their AI use and development, actually.

    And you can tell when it starts getting used. Suddenly the UI will be replaced with the ubiquitous Clod™ look. Then the bugs and awful performance start rearing their head. If you use programs, it's plainly obvious that the quality of software over the last year has plummeted.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    You have no clue what is or isn’t being developed with AI. That’s a fact.

    Except they do, because it says so in the article. It even says it in the title of the article if you're too lazy to open the link

    In an internal messaged reviewed by Bloomberg, a game director supposedly told staff there would be "no more hand-written code"

    Seems pretty straightforward to me.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    I think most people react most strongly to the lack of quality in purely AI generated things. Especially art projects. No one likes buggy games and AI doesn’t change that. If they can manage to be one of the few to pull off a polished and successful game entirely generated by AI the I’d wager the actual backlash will be far more limited. But most people have now come across at least a few generated slop projects and they tend to leave a bad taste. So resistance to supporting the decision to go all in on something that has generally provided distasteful outcomes is to be expected, no?

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  • Precisely.

    I have serious and significant objections to how LLM codegen models have and are being created/trained, marketed, deployed, and used, for a whole litany of ethical, personal, and professional reasons.

    To my deep chagrin, I and my team have effectively been forced to start using those tools to expedite some of our work lately, largely due to the very fucky and understaffed state my team has been in for the better part of a year. So, yeah, I do use claude, and I am fully versed in how to get higher-quality output from it by including adversarial and specialist agents in workflows, and how to present goals in a way that you minimize nonsense and maximize targeted, incisive agentic changesets. But I always treat that agentic output as a draft, and wherever possible, give my workflows a manually, tightly coded baseline example to serve as a change template. I categorically refuse to yeet LLM output into a PR - in fact, there was a multi-month period earlier this year where a bunch of contractors were doing just that, and I consistently took the piss out of them - and after enough restatements to make it clear they weren’t listening and didn’t care, we fired three of them.

    There is a reasonable and incisive way to employ codegen tools, but you absolutely have to know what you’re doing, and you have to be conscientious about it.

    Fully cuck coding is generally a recipe for disaster, including horrifying security vulnerabilities, awful performance, and various exciting categories of bugs that can yield interesting prod issues and outages. It will tank your code quality if you let it - and worst of all, it will make you a worse engineer if you intellectually lean on it too much. Delegation of your critical reasoning and technical aptitude to the clankers is a great way to allow those skills to atrophy to an alarming degree, and on top of that, you will have a much shakier understanding of the systems you are building and supporting.

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  • [–] 31 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

    Once upon a time I worked for a company that provided DSL internet.

    One day we got a call from a customer complaining that they had no connection.

    We investigated and discovered that their line had been completely cancelled from under us and ask the customer what happened to their telephone line.

    They said they had set up VoIP on their internet connection, and thus no longer had need of their telephone line and so they cancelled it.

    The telephone line on which we had provisioned their DSL internet...

    "No more hand-written code" sounds to me an awful lot like "we don't need that telephone line any more".

    The real shame here is that the fall-out won't be as sudden and the people who ought to be getting the brunt of it will manage to squirm out of any responsibility.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 hours ago

    The real shame here is that the fall-out won’t be as sudden and the people who ought to be getting the brunt of it will manage to squirm out of any responsibility.

    Thank you for the wise way of putting this, because I was getting excited with the whole "too subtle and sudden approach of justice to escape it" opposite emotion-driven interpretation, where dangerous fools always escape justice with some scratches, leaving others to suffer, but this time they will get complacent. Like with debt or with antivaxxer ideas.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    While I get what you're saying, you don't actually need POTS service on a copper line to have DSL work. I used to sell DSL circuits without telephony services in one of my first technology jobs. We'd order "dry circuits" and pipe data only through Copper Mountain or Paradyne branded gear (pretty sure both companies are dead now). Most telephone companies wouldn't let you do this because they wanted to prop up POTS line sales, not because it was technically necessary.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    This was the in the UK over a decade ago, back in the bad old days of migration codes and everything being underpinned by BT Openreach who basically had their arm twisted to allow other ISPs to exist and use that infrastructure. And even then they guarded everything jealously (and sometimes incompetently, but that's another story).

    We didn't sell telephone lines, so every DSL we sold was on an existing POTS line that each customer already had. Most of our customers wouldn't have known about getting a separate POTSless line even if that was possible at the time. And the customer in question certainly didn't.

    They had it installed on their company's one and only telecommunications line. Of all the hundreds of customers I dealt with over the years, it only ever happened the once... although we did have to warn at least one other customer off the idea when it happened to come up in conversation.

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  • [–] 1 point 37 minutes ago

    Yeah I worked for a company that sold DSL in ATT and CenturyLink areas in the United States. We could also sell stuff with telephony from ATT, but we had some ancient agreement that let us sell DSL using their lines without telephone service. They were ordered in ATT's system as "alarm circuits". We also could run service 3x further out because of some old tech called ReachDSL. It was only 256k to 1.5M, depending on distance, but most of the people on it could only get dial up at the time, so this was the best they had available.

    Those were indeed dark days.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    Why do companies have to adopt the worst version of every policy towards AI?

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  • [–] 22 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

    AI is a democratizing technology (is this a thing?) while concentrating control. We’re lured into dependence, and someone else holds the keys. RAM prices show us how they can revoke access..

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  • [–] 16 points 10 hours ago* (8 children)

    Don't worry, the bubble pop will make it much harder for companies to afford doing this.

    Current estimate, based off the financial side of the AI industry, is mid 2027 or earlier.

    Look up Ed Zitron if you are interested in following the current situation.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    Yeh, I watch his stuff. IMO, it won't be a pop where there is a concentric splatter of damage hitting everyone. Those that are propping this whole thing up have so much wealth that they can keep circulating it back into the market and decide when they want it to go. So, when this goes, IMO, it will be more like an intentional harvesting of organs with entities ready to take for their own use. I think this is just part of the plan .. another part being Anthony Snyder calling out superpower suicide... there are interconnections with all of this.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago

    Yes, it's going to hurt the small fish the most, the big fish the least, and also all kinds of VC and individual investors, in short, grease of the economy that could benefit a lot of things instead of getting burnt. Not even talking about those investors suffering. Kicking the ladder is the real "flaw of capitalism" and not what people who want to rob those they don't like think.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

    Most of the wealth is share prices though, so when there's a market crash, they won't have as much anymore...

    Also the banks lending the money for the data center build outs will have some big defaulting loans similar to the 2008 financial crisis(although i think the peak debt is possibly still a lot less than 2008?), but with even less real estate value as security, since they're mostly built on lower value land...

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    At the same time AI-transitioning companies are not those under whom the control is being centralized, all those managers don't seem to understand this. If demand for developers and their negotiating position against employers is eroding due to this technology, then so is that of those employers against their customers.

    Meaning, of course, that there will be changes in demand for tech workers in the world even after the bubble burst. I'm mentally prepared to try myself in trades. Woodworking is nice. All the dangers of losing your fingers or getting git in the head with something heavy, accompanying construction jobs, are sad, while construction is cool.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 hours ago

    The jank when they finally push this turd out the door is going to be, well, Epic.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 hours ago

    Tim Sweeney is a fucking moron.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    Man I know bethesda has some serious jank but I wonder how bad it would be if they tried this and got ai to do it for them

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 child)

    As much as I hate the ongoing “AI” scam, and as many hours as I've wasted on Bethesda's games (or on modding them), in Bethesda's case (especially modern Bethesda) I actually believe the slop machine might actually be an improvement.

    At least the code for the unofficial patches will be in its training set, which is a start...

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago

    It would probably be equally bad. Current systems can't hold enough context in memory to manage the architecture of a system. Development is going to be piecemeal, and reimplement a bunch of stuff. Like if you had a new developer take over every week.

    So individually each piece would probably be better, but overall it's going to be an even bigger spaghetti mess.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago

    Making everything equally shit.

    I love Democracy.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 hours ago

    Personally looking forward to playing as Mickey Mouse with 13 fingers

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  • [–] 0 points 8 hours ago

    Very poorly timed announcement.

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