I would rather spend 45 minutes on public trans moving than 45 sitting in traffic.
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No, 16 minutes in traffic is a long time.
This is so weird. People are ok to sit one hour in a traffic jam but the idea to walk half an hour to some place is jarring.
People go on big hiking trips over the weekend but the idea to cycle 45 minutes / 15 kilometers (or ten miles) as their cummute seems more frightening than to climb Mt. Everest....
I was once in Iceland and took a guided tour. The bus stopped at a beautiful waterfall that you can walk behind (no loot). You could see the waterfall from the bus but it was a 10 min walk to get to it. I shit you not, the american couple on the bus decided to stay behind because they didn't want to walk that far. Now I get that people have medical conditions and all but this seemed mostly like an issue of them being tired because the last two stops already required 10 min walks. It's not their fault either. They grew up in a system that stole all forms of movement from them and fed them corn syrup so now a 20 min walk is unthinkable.
Every study on depression comes to the result that physical exercise is fantastic to combat it but all too often the decisions we make reduce the amount of exercise we get. Teenagers these days zoom past on E-scooters all the time and I often feel like they're being robbed of what we had with our regular ol' bikes. Sure it's harder when you have to pedal and put all the energy in yourself but it also keeps you in a much beter state.
I hate how many cities here in China got rid of public bikes for public escooters.
one thing I hate with my cities bikeshare program is to me it enshitified with the addition of e-bikes. At this point the e-bikes are the majority and its harder to find standard compared to when they were the only option. Thing is the standard bikes you can ride for an hour for free and then dock and undock a new one and you only have the relatively low yearly membership. E-bikes though have a cost per min even with a membership.
That does sound like a issue. I wonder though are more people are choosing "standard bikes" because of longer free window as you said, or is it that your bikeshare program is choosing to provide more "electrified bikes" because of increased profits or demand?
Personaly I choose the "electrified bike" (i.e. pedel assist) as its easier for me to get around more comfortably and go further distances with less knee pain and strain, but having both options is a plus.
My area has a docked bike program. In a app I can always see how many bikes are available at a designated dock and how many of those bikes are electric vs manual.
Also, a side note the term "e-bike" has become a "catch all term" for electrified two wheel modes of transportation IMO. Most of this used by the media as a negative generalization or buzzword to group e-motos, and e-mopeds together with electric bicycles. This is mainly related to exploding unregulated batteries which generally are caused by e-mopeds, not electrified bicycles. This is why I generally in conversations try to make a distinction between bicycles, mopeds, and motorcycles, when they are electrified.
yeah definately just bikes in this case. there is an app but an app telling you no bikes that don't have additional charge are available at the closest rack or any rack around you does not really help the issue. Im pretty sure part of it is supply because you can see fewer manual bikes across the whole system. I think when they started doing electric they did it by replacing end of life manual bikes with e-bikes. im kinda concerned that might keep on going till e-bikes are the only option. although honestly I never stopped having a bike and given the situation the dream of not needing to keep one where I live is kinda dead.
Same deal in China, though in most cities, you can leave the bikes nearly anywhere that's not blocking traffic.
The escooters only cost 15 cents for 20 minutes, but its the spirit of the thing, I used to grab a bicycle just to go 1 block to get to the subway, now its not worth it.
The city guides here tell the same story. The cruise terminal is 200 and change meters/yards from where the historical city tour begins. They have to hire a bus to drive the Americans from the terminal to the spot. If there's no bus, they stay on the boat. Afterwards they'll of course say "we could've walked that part."
British citizen that moved back to Canada a few years ago. I'd ask my friends to walk a certain distance and they're utterly bewildered that I'd walk. I also don't need to wait 5 minutes for a closer parking spot, I can park where it's free and walk less than a minute.
I've changed them quite a bit and now they've gotten into running which is nice.
the only thing I would be worried about is if the bus will stay for long enough. Figure with looking around and experiencing it would be like half an hour. 10 to, 10 there, 10 back.
I work in a coworking space. They just announced they're moving the space to a block away. I was talking to the other folks about it yesterday, and one of them was complaining that the new space has no parking. She currently pays to park in the garage adjacent to the current space. I suggested just keeping that garage and she said "yeah, I guess I'm going to have to"
This in a very walkable downtown btw
Same thing in my city. People kvetch endlessly about how hard it is to park downtown. But the city parking utility studies show parking utilization nowhere near 100%, even at peak times. As a friend put it to me years ago, unless there's a spot within line-of-sight (so even just around the corner doesn't count) of their destination, drivers say that "there's no parking."
My problem is I down know the downtown area, so trying to find out where the parking at a new area is stressful, so much rather just not have to drive there. Just paying attention to the roads for driving safely requires like 100% of ones attention. So unless you remembered to GPS directly to a parking garage or you have passengers to figure it out while you just try to circle around aimlessly, it sucks.
is 16 minute wait for the next bus a lot? Depends on the context.
Bus that goes between cities? no.
Bus that goes inside a single city? Yes.
It's so weird, but the psychological difference of having to wait less than ten minutes for the next train vs maybe 20 minutes for the next bus is, indeed, a bit of a gulf.
Recall that psychological experiment in which the researchers had volunteers sit for 15 minutes in a room, completely empty except for a device with which they could administer themselves a painful electric shock. If I remember correctly, more than half of the people zapped themselves, just for something to do.
The upshot: We need to let people administer themselves painful electric shocks at bus stops. /j
It's probably the % of total travel time
i've thought about this a lot and i think the two main aspects are travel time and how long it would take to get to the destination otherwise (mostly considering walking and maybe cycling, because drivers are probably not choosing public transport because it's faster unless we're talking about high speed trains).
Like if you're taking the bus to a town 30km away then you're certainly not walking and biking there would take hours, so hourly buses is acceptable and half-hourly makes you go "oh man this is great".
But if you're taking the bus a couple kilometers just to another part of the city then you can totally just walk and cycling might well be slightly faster, so even half-hourly buses becomes.. borderline acceptable for commuting to and from work, maybe. You really want AT LEAST every 20 or really 15 minutes for shorter distances, otherwise what the fuck is even the point?
Solution: Arrange any parking spaces on public ground so that it is at 10 minutes walking distance from the home. Exceptions for disabled people only.
A lot of car traffic would just evaporate.
this and other reasons like space efficiency and increased safety/comfort is why just putting all the parking in centralized areas next to the main access roads for an area is probably THE most trivial yet impactful design choice you can make.
As a bonus it means you can later just nuke the parking and build apartments or whatever.
Some Netherlands cities do exactly this.
Cause no one has any alone time so they use their commute for that
I'd rather walk 16 minutes alone than sit 16 minutes alone in a car
Is it over 100 degrees during commute times for 4+ months out of the year?
I like a walk and a bike ride, but I would also have to bring a garment bag with clothes to change into after showering at the office.
There actually is a shower at the office, but with 30 people sharing 1 shower the line would suck.
Depends on the walk...
To work? Annoying. Give me sitting in a car.
To anywhere the fuck else? I'll walk the night away!
I mean nothing against walking in general, but when it's super cold or super hot, it's much nicer to spend that time in a climate-controlled interior than outside. Especially before I got a heat pump installed so I could actually get some breathable air at home in the summer, the car was the only AC I had access to.
The 16 minutes also gets me about 20 kilometers away versus about a kilometer for the walk. I MIGHT get to the closest store in that time.
No Man's Sky
For the life time of the universe?
Yes.
Lol, that's stupid. I haven't sat in a traffic jam for 7 years or so. And back than, I was getting payed hourly to sit there, so I didn't mind as much. Can't imagine sitting in traffic for so ling just to get to the office evry day.
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