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[–] 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I agree with others in this thread, this has more to do with ethics and critical thinking than with nuerodivigence. And that nuerodivergence seems to be getting conflated here with autism, specifically.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 hours ago

    This is not a valid excuse to go into asshole territory. Occasionally, you might not be in a position to understand why things are done a certain way - mostly because of inexperience, or your higher-ups might not have the time to explain the rules to you. Some examples might include regulations or standards.

    It's alright to be humble and recognize that you may not understand some things sometimes. That's actually how you learn, and avoid pissing off your colleagues.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 hours ago

    It's a sign of intelligence to question the status quo.

    And if being intelligent is neurodivergent because the rest of the populace is stupid asf, so be it

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    I follow the rules unless they don't make sense to me, I must be autistic and neurodivergent omg so quirky.

    People, we can just remark on things, we don't need a unique identifier for every observable opinion in the world. I know its part of finding belonging and community, but you aren't neurodivergent for questioning the way the world works, you're critical of your surroundings and that's a good thing

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  • [–] 36 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

    "legality is not a guideline to morality" sign

    This has little to do with autism and more with being smart. No, seriously.

    From the English Wikipedia, stages of moral development:

    1. Obedience and punishment orientation (''How can I avoid punishment?'')
    2. Self-interest orientation (''What's in it for me?'') (''Paying for a benefit'')
    3. Interpersonal accord and conformity (''Social norms'') (''The good boy/girl attitude'')
    4. Authority and social-order maintaining orientation (''Law and order morality'')
    5. Social contract orientation
    6. Universal ethical principles (''Principled conscience'')

    1 and 2 are "Level 1 (Pre-Conventional)" (according to the same article, children and animals have this), 3 and 4 are "Level 2 (Conventional)", 5 and 6 are "Level 3 (Post-Conventional)".

    The last one is basically thinking around "what if everyone did that?". Unfortunately, lots of people are at either stage 2 or 4. Sometimes downgrading from 4 to 2 once they become the authority.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    It's very curious to claim neurodivergent people refused to participate in the slave trade, the Holocaust, or white nationalist lynch mobs.

    I haven't seen any evidence to this effect. Certainly, I've seen a fair share of evidence against it.

    This has little to do with autism and more with being smart.

    Intelligent people engage in immoral activities frequently. They get sucked into cults of personality and religious extremism frequently. They are conned frequently.

    Intelligence isn't infalliblity.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    So the neurodivergent folk converge on it? This rule of thumb makes no sense to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

    another one that would indicate im apparently not neurodivergent because I have a hard time not following rules regardless. Like to my detriment. Unless i find them like morally wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    Not playing a tabletop game with you.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    So neuro divergent are just autistic?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 hours ago

    Yah not loving how nd just becomes whichever one you're thinking of, or just some vague difference. It's like the "Asian" of cognitive differences.

    Like ocd and bpd exist, for examples.

    I mean I do it sometimes too, but it does exclude

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  • [–] 5 points 9 hours ago

    I'll just do what causes least harm / most positive things. If following some obscure rule doesnt require worthwhile effort from me then might as well, in case something goes wrong. If there isnt any logical reason to suspect ignoring the rule would cause harm then I'll just put it lower on the priority about how things are done.

    Until i actually know better, i dont want to assume anything poorly explained is irrelevant.

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  • [–] 24 points 13 hours ago

    Well yeah, there are only two kinds of rules:

    1. The right way to do things
    2. Stupid bullshit that serves no purpose

    If you can't at least give a basic reasoning for the rule, it's #2

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago

    Conversely, if someone is honest and says, "this is just how I like it I'm not really sure why" I'll at least respect it because they were honest, and a silly (little) rule that exists because of some cope or something is something I can relate to.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago

    As it should be

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  • [–] 11 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

    There's some people who aren't neurodivergent and do the same. Some people just don't want to follow rules they don't understand, which can be pretty annoying

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  • [–] 11 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

    If you can't explain your rule so it makes sense, your rule is shit and you expecting others to follow it are the actual annoying person.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago (3 children)

    Very often the reasoning is "convention". Is that good enough?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago (2 children)

    If we would blindly follow convention people would still not wash their hands before operating.

    Convention alone is not enough. There should be a reason why this convention is needed. And that's the part that has to be more convincing than "it has always been like that".

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago (1 child)

    Sound exhausting. If my company tells me to use times new Roman I will just use times new roman instead of investing hours in an investigation.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 hours ago* (3 children)

    I've heard plenty of unreasonable people say this about completely reasonable rules. Hell, I've heard someone say this about seatbelts, "it doesn't make sense how it isn't my own decision" lol

    Sometimes people just don't get something. Doesn't mean the rule is bad if you don't get it lol

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago* (2 children)

    A seatbelt you can't adjust the height would actually strangle me in a crash. Not that i don't put it on, but there might be reasons in some cases.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    Yoo..so that means im neurodivergent?? Cause I do this ya'll

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