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submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

I need some books paywalled behind Oxford Politics Trove and they aren’t on Anna’s lib, Zlib, Libgen, Memory of the World, Aaarg, or the Internet Archive. Not sure to whom else to turn to. I hate that knowledge like this is paywalled, and I highly doubt the authors will be paid if I pay the highway robbery of a price.

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hey mate, I extracted this one from Scribd using this Scribd downloader I found

Issues in Political Theory 2019

As of now I can't find Rethinking political thinkers, but I found it on Academia.edu and it says there for 3usd (premium trial) you can get the PDF

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

Awesome! Thank you for telling me about Scribd downloader and finding the first book.

As for the Academia.edu link, it doesn’t seem like premium will provide the PDF, that’s just premium membership. The actual PDFs are governed by individual authors. Seems that author uploaded a preview of the book perhaps to indicate that they contributed to it so it counts as a citation.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

You're welcome!

May the winds of the high seas favor you (especially with the 2nd book). I'll try to find it again if I have the time

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

^ This is why Lemmy is better than the alternatives.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago

Because there's people on it like any other platform?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

because the community is still quite small. Makes interactions more personal which leads to people being less of a dick in my experience.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Did you try sci hub for the separate chapters (if they have separate doi)?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Sci hub no longer updates, and these books are too recent.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Use libgen

Edit: you can also check the FMHY Wiki for sources.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I’ve already mentioned in the body that it ain’t on libgen. Otherwise there wouldn’t be a point of asking. I’ll check the other wiki though, thanks.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

You sure about scihub? I am finished without it. Do you know what's going on there?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, as a result of SciHub’s ongoing litigation in India, they voluntarily decided to stop updating their database. This is old news. You can look it up.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Depending on where you live, you might find them in a university library.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

My library doesn’t have it unfortunately. I’ve asked for help anyway, perhaps through an inter-library loan. We’ll see.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Can’t you ask your university library to order the newest versions?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I did ask them to check if they could access it through interlibrary loan. We’ll see. Buying the book seems prohibitive though. It’s highway robbery prices.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Have you tried emailing the authors? It's well known that some folks will gladly respond with a copy of the paper at no charge.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

That’s not usually an option for books. Articles, maybe, but I need textbooks.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Welp, I totally misunderstood the question then. Sorry.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

IIRC: The Oxford Politics Trove is more text books than academic papers.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I don't know why people keep pushing this myth.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

What makes you think it's a myth?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Because it is a myth. Many friends have attempted this and got no response whatsoever. Pretty much almost never have they actually gotten access to the papers by mailing the researchers directly.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

People are busy, and academics especially get tons of emails to wade through. When we say that authors will gladly share their papers, it means that the incentives are aligned such that it benefits them to share their work for free. It doesn't mean that they'll drop everything else to respond to your email.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

What we did in the situation was buy one book and then everyone photocopied it and split the cost

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

That works quite well in my country, where book piracy isn’t as policed, but that’s not an option for me because I can’t access or buy a physical copy.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe you can buy it copy it and return it

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

It’s too expensive ://

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

A long shot but Google Scholar may have some pages/chapters?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that’s a good tip, but I need the whole book. I’ve checked.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

In the past, with similar issues, I've had good success with requesting the book on Zlib, especially newer books.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

@mambabasa What are the names of the books?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Both are on Oxford Politics Trove. Would you happen to have institutional access?

Yes, I’m aware Issues has pirated versions of earlier editions available, I have those already. I’m hoping for the latest version.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Neither are in MAM (private tracker for books). Sorry.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Sci-Hub should still be around, I guess...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Really makes me wonder why they don’t value our work enough to pay us better salaries to afford all the bullshit we’re expected to pay for out of pocket.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

We are slaves

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