America is a country for only richwhitemen. Everyone else is just fodder.
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When was this posted? Why are you always cutting the dates off your posts?
I suspect that 60% is gonna grow to a 90% rapidly in the coming years.
Obviously, we aren't giving billionaires enough wealth to create jobs.
Yeah, and besides that, they're smarter and more innovative and creative than the rest of us. So, either way, they deserve it.
Without them we could end up with socialism where people might even have democratic control over their workplaces. And of course that would be much worse. For instance, cooperatives are only better in theory, wait, and in practice...
When we're talking about a socialist politician "almost half don't support"
When we're talking about the working class "bottom 60% are struggling"
I see what's going on here. What a world...
I think this is the press release for the new analysis they are referring to. It's titled Majority of Americans Can't Achieve a Minimal Quality of Life, According to New Ludwig Institute Research. You can find "bottom 60%" in the fourth paragraph
In 2023, the bottom 60% of households earned just 22.1% of all disposable income but needed 39% to meet MQL.
Unfortunately, the US, and some other Western democracies, operate based on capital. Bottom 60% owns nothing, so it's the minority. Top 0.1% owns everything, so it's the majority.
Hey, 'Murica?
How does all this "winning" feel?
Yours contemptuously,
The civilised world
Honestly, it hurts and we're tired of it. Send help, or like a sniper or something.
I'll celebrate as much as anyone the day the dipshit is no longer with us, but he didn't singlehandedly cause this, nor will getting rid of him magically fix everything.
And the fact is, not all Americans are tired of it. There are millions of Americans who are perfectly happy with things the way they are. There are millions more who would be perfectly content if all else were unchanged but we had a slightly less embarrassing commander in chief, as though that's our only problem. It isn't. Not by a long shot.
I’m an American emigrant, living in Germany, and it’s weird: there are so many layers of problems, that I can’t accurately express what it feels like to watch your home country burn itself and anyone it can take with it to the ground from afar. The closest I can come is “shameful,” when people ask, but I worry that comes off as though I just find trump embarrassing.
I absolutely do, but it’s more that I feel deep shame for ever having believed the propaganda I was raised with; every new, horrible thing this president does is a fucking disgrace; and the mask-off nature of the administration reveals other shameful aspects of American culture and history*, which were previously less known to Europeans.
Just cutting off USAID, NOAA, and American participation in the WHO have or will all contribute to preventable deaths of innocent people around the world (there are too many things to consider them all here). We were at one point well-organized, dedicated, and well-connected enough to have a net positive effect on the world (had we chosen to do so, which we continually did not). We had a robust social safety net for some of the population at one point which could have been expanded to cover everyone in the country. By not doing that, we’ve almost certainly forced people who could have been highly skilled doctors, gifted artists, or creative inventors into wage labor, prison, or an early grave.
Because of what?
Racism?
That weird little fantasy about how the details of a person’s phenotype affect their personality or ability? It’s just a malignant, bizarro-world version of astrology! Race isn’t based in genetic science, and even if they try to suggest that there are differences based on race that are transmitted through culture, it quickly leads to the realization that perhaps treating some people as an underclass is not a good thing for society, actually, so they’re clearly not going about it that way.
It’s repeated a lot, but the cruelty really seems to be the point.
That’s a terrible shame.
*it also revealed a level of solidarity shown by people protesting ICE that I was really happily surprised by, to be clear. It’s not all bad, but there are many ways that could have been revealed which would have been infinitely better.
He didn't cause this. But he sure as hell isn't helping.
And the fact is, not all Americans are tired of it. There are millions of Americans who are perfectly happy with things the way they are.
There will always be a minority that are content with status quo. Though virtually everyone is not happy with how things are. There is just a disagreement on the solution. Dipshit was elected because he was different, and they thought he would fix the problems that plagues the US. And many still think he is helping, somehow...
Our president said we are going to win so much, that we will say "no more winning sir, we are winning too much we can't win anymore"
That's where we are. All this winning is destroying our country.
Think of how dumb the average person is, half of them are dumber than that. And they voted this rotten mango into office. We are sick of him and watching our country crumble around him.
The original line is that we would get tired of winning. So that's what this is. We're tired of winning so we have opted for losing. Lots of losing.
If you accept that society is pyramid-shaped, it’s easy to accept ideas such as a “bottom 80%” (the hideous peasants who do all the jobs you wouldn’t touch) and to imagine oneself as in the “top 20%” if you have a comfortable home, don’t go hungry and have enough to treat yourself to discretionary luxuries like a Netflix subscription. Yes, the private-jet class may be far above you, but your little perch on the side of the pyramid keeps you out of most of the muck.
That's probably the minority of voters.
Yup. Mostly because they don't have time to vote and the parties are trying their best to make them unable to vote.
To any American I meet, it more likly than not that they fall into this category
I mean, that’s what a majority usually means. 😂
I guess my point was that I hadnt realized that it's no longer just that little neighborhood with the amazing food, it's like... Most folks now. I hadn't fully processed the impact of that.
Honestly it’s hard for me too. I think I qualify as “upper middle class” (though it feels squarely like middle now) and most people I know are in that strata too. As such it’s hard for me to fathom “my fellow American” as I don’t see it directly. But just knowing that stat gives me serious pause.
And that I think is the biggest barrier for congress critters. They’re so far removed and insulated from it, they just dismiss the facts because “it doesn’t feel right to them”. It’s a level of cognitive dissonance that requires you to willfully put in effort to understand and most just don’t want to.
about 50% of these people didn't vote. of the half that did vote, over half of them voted for trump. fuck em. this is what ya voted for.
Of every 100 Americans in the bottom 60% by income, roughly 45 didn't vote, and roughly 32 voted for Trump.
So ya, of that 60% only roughly 25% of them voted kamala. I feel bad for them but the rest can eat their shit.

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