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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by to c/onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 

hasan piker (guy on the right) does not represent the left and is not worthy of your attention.

he is actively making abdul el-sayed’s chances at election worse and i am frustrated about it given the stakes so i made this meme.

because like. my absolute BESTIE abdul el-sayed is out here working miracles at home trying to keep poc, migrant, low-income, queer, etc. people alive and doing the actual work of building a coalition, including making real inroads with his Jewish constituency, while being explicitly pro-Palestinian and rejecting AIPAC money.

hasan piker has made a handful of appearances with both abdul and zohran, but now abdul is getting viciously smeared for hasan’s own words, with fox news literally turning things hasan said into attack-ad material against him. and hasan just will not read the room and step back.

this is the same BOZO hasan piker who wears mao outfits, plays literal terrorist propaganda videos for his friends and goes “they’re just very musical people,” denies the Uyghur genocide, supports the invasion of Tibet, lies about queer rights in China while going on tours, and has said enough insane shit that even my OTHER bestie zohran mamdani disavowed him months ago. and the room is STILL unread and some people are trying to tell me i have to fall on the sword for piker.

do i have to beg ;;;;;;

i just want candidates who aren’t evil to win :’(

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[–] 71 points 1 month ago

fox news literally turning things hasan said into attack-ad material against [El-Sayed]

I don't really think that's gonna do much? Fox was gonna run attack ads regardless of Hasan's proximity, and the core audience of Fox News... is the core audience of Fox News.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    There is nothing Abdul El-Sayed could do to make Establishment Democrats or the Republicans party stop attacking him. All the things you like El-Sayed for are the exact reasons he is being smeared by Fox News and CNN. Disavowing a streamer will not help because the DNC and RNC do not actually care about Hasan Piker; they are just using him as a tool to attack progressive ideas. There will always, always be something else to attack Abdul over.

    Jesse Watters has said and done way more horrible things than Hasan Piker, yet it would be absurd to claim that Abdul El-Sayed should apologize for going on Fox News and should disavow Jesse Watters. That Abdul is going to lose his left wing voters for guilt-by-association with Watters.

    I cannot speak for what other people have told you, but I do not think you need to fall on the sword for Hasan Piker. You do need to stop falling for conservative propaganda though. The GOP's official plan is to try and use Hasan Piker as a distraction away from the actual harm they are inflicting upon US citizens. Fox News talked about Hasan Piker over 300 times since April not because they think Piker and Adbul are close friends, but to try and manufacture outrage against a twitch streamer while gas and eggs are absurdly expensive. You are angry at Hasan for the idea that Hasan and Abdul are closely tied together. Fox News is the one tying the knots. CNN and MSNBC are providing the string.

    Any time spent upset about Hasan Piker is a distraction from the actual harmful people in this country who have access to the levers of power.

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    [–] 27 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    hasan is awesome; they're not attacking abdul because of hasan, they're attacking him because they're fucking racist assholes who love aipac money.

    and abdul is still winning <3

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    [–] 21 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

    Hasan continues to be an incredible litmus test. His existence has this uncanny ability to get anti-leftists and wreckers to out themselves.

    Like, the people obsessing about Hasan specifically kinda just sound like Ethan Klein at this point.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago

    I think you nailed it.

    As someone who has been watching Hasan for many years, its frustrating seeing "leftists" take clips out of context without the decency of checking the full video.

    I used to consider myself conservative (thanks mom and dad!) until I discovered Hasan, so he played a big part in my development.

    Yes he is brash and I will disagree with some things he says, but we agree on an overwhelming amount of topics. I honestly don't know how he handles the amount of unjustified heat he gets. I would go crazy..

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    [–] 20 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    You are falling into the trap that conservatives set for you.

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    [–] 20 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    this is the same BOZO hasan piker who wears mao outfits, plays literal terrorist propaganda videos for his friends and goes “they’re just very musical people,” denies the Uyghur genocide, supports the invasion of Tibet, lies about queer rights in China while going on tours

    Alright it's pretty clear what community you're coming from, or you're a really gullible liberal. Why do you seem to care more about this streamer than these political campaigns? Mighty strange behavior.

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    [–] 18 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    If Hasan genuinely gave a shit about making the country a better place, he wouldn't be trying to self enrich off of El-Sayed. He'd have continued to support him as a fan and advocate, but not try to insert himself as a key figure to his campaign.

    I also don't agree with the take A LOT of leftist have that El-Sayed is "running away from Hasan to save face" or "he's betraying Hasan by refusing to defend him".

    El-Sayed's campaign and political career is about a million more important things than Hasan. Its about saving our country's Democracy. Its about universal healthcare. Its about ending the grip of Israel over the US and their genocides. Its about justice against the fascists.

    If El-Sayed spent his time trying to defend Hasan from every bad-faith attack on Hasan, El-Sayed's campaign would cease to be about any of the WAY MORE IMPORTANT things he's fighting for, and it'd become all about Hasan. It'd be playing into The MAGA and Zionist Liberal playbook and pigeonhole his campaign with Hasan. Its what his opponents want.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    I kept hearing about that betrayal thing and its some minor election on the other side of the globe, so pardon me for not knowing or caring about the details, but what is Hasan's political project for if he's not gonna help people like El Sayed get elected? (He loves aesthetics of revolution, but I'll eat a shoe if he actually helps make one happen) There is nothing that stops him from supporting figures that publically disavow him apart from ego, is there? What even is the point of him being a part of the campaign?

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    [–] 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (15 children)

    What are you going on about with "playing terrorist propaganda" and "denying the Uyghur genocide"? And why are you calling politicians 'buddies'?

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    [–] 13 points 4 weeks ago

    Get zapped idiot

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  • [–] 13 points 4 weeks ago

    Shit ass take

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  • [–] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    If their only avenue of attack is some vague association with a twitch streamer then i think el-sayed gonna be just fine tbh.

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    [–] 11 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child)

    This entire smear campaign is just an attempt at assigning guilt-by-association to progressives. A full-throated condemnation of Hasan Piker will only be taken as an admission of guilt for their prior association and the media will continue to use it as a line of attack, so it's less than pointless to do so, it's counterproductive because it would only alienate those who agree with Hasan while doing nothing to appease "moderates."

    Stop pretending you care about electability. It's obvious you're not doing this out of concern for Abdul's chances of winning, but out of hatred for an online personality you have a weird parasocial vendetta against.

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    [–] 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    I didn't know who that guy is, so I watched a couple of videos. Best I can tell is that he's just another political streamer. He has some rather simplistic views on the USSR and China but most people do. I think he's basically just another social media personality trying to pass themselves off as an intellectual. The right has loads of them and seem to be doing fine, so I wouldn't loose too much sleep over it.

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    [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

    None of you clowns care about Hillary Clinton wearing Mao suits, but act like it's a problem when Hasan wears one.

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    [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (8 children)

    Idk why people feel the need to defend hasan on this platform so much. he is directly depositing money into Amazon's pocket by streaming on twitch. I feel like thats pretty antithetical to using platforms like lemmy. he has the budget to self host something like Peertube.

    this in addition to everything you said OP.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 weeks ago

    I certainly dislike Hasan but this doesn't seem like a fair criticism. Assuming he genuinely is trying to convince people to embrace leftist ideas, it makes sense to use an actually popular platform. He could use something like peertube too, but using it exclusively would be unreasonable. Amazon benefitting slightly from his anticapitalist messaging doesn't disqualify his arguments. Rather, he undermines himself with more significant controversies.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago

    You can't attack my goat Hasan like this bruh. He's an epic political commentator

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