United States Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent insisted his country is "not at war" with Canada, then proceeded to mock the threat Canada could pose to his country with "submarines from the Edmonton mall."

The secretary also suggested Prime Minister Mark Carney was to blame for the current "political shouting match" between the two countries because keeping the fight alive is good for his poll numbers.

Bessent made the remarks Monday in an interview with the U.S. cable news network CNBC, where he was asked if his country is now in a trade war with Canada.

"Well, I don't think you can be in a tit for tat with someone that's 13 times larger than you are," he said.

"I mean we're not at war with Canada. How are we going to be at war with Canada? What, are they going to take their two submarines from the Edmonton mall and sic them on us?"

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[–] 4 points 1 hour ago

The secretary also suggested Prime Minister Mark Carney was to blame for the current “political shouting match”

Trump has started a shouting match with a dozen different countries. At some point it becomes obvious the US is the problem in international relations

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    Dressed this up as "Carney just hates America/Trump for no reason". This started with absolutely a war on Canada with BS fentanyl excuse for tariffs and 51st state threats. Objective to destroy Canadian auto sector.

    Canada has recognized its a war, but is not doing anything.

    Ultimatum to abandon all auto tarriffs, or if Canadian auto sector is diminished, there will be 0 US market access to one of world's largest auto markets. Pressuring companies directly, and seizing factories when then don't immediately repay past subsidides. Closing Canadian market to US aviation, tractors, construction equipment. Far better value available elsewhere, including China. And no buying better value products is not dependency on evil. Forcing Canadians to buy expensive crap is dependency on evil.

    It's only this utlimatum posture that results in US begging to restoring historical relationship by Monday.

    Cancelling all US military equipment procurement is a cherry to get US begging for a deal, and to restore our positions in queues.

    The other crazy boast from Bessent yesterday was "US bonds have outperformed G7 bonds" which is admitting that US/Trump has destroyed global economy. Pathetic loser vassals just smiled.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    The best thing everyone in Canada can do is just ignore these fuckwits and carry on working with the rest of the world. There's nothing to be gained by engaging. Even if they did agree to something, it woudn't be worth the paper it's printed on. So walk away and ignore them.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 hours ago

    I swear we will burn your fucking house down. Again. Bitch.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 hours ago

    We'll just wave some steaks in front of your troops 😉

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  • [–] 16 points 14 hours ago (1 child)

    "Well, I don't think you can be in a tit for tat with someone that's 13 times larger than you are," he said.

    Russia would like a word....

    Also, Fuck you, asshoke.

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  • [–] 12 points 15 hours ago

    they weren't at war with Venezuela either, but they did invade them, deposed their leader, and now control their oilfields…

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  • [–] 23 points 17 hours ago*

    "I don’t think you can be in a tit for tat with someone that’s 13 times larger than you are"

    Agreed. Which is why we need asymmetric measures that make the USA hurt a lot more than us. Specifically, make their billionaires squeal like piggies. Tax US cloud services, streaming services, and app services. Cap the profits that their app stores can charge. Clamp down on what advertising is acceptable. Force them to open APIs.

    Right to repair legislation. Force them to open app store competition.

    Level the playing field for Canadian software companies and developers.

    We can't compete with them dollar for dollar. So compete with them penny for dollar.

    While they're at it, rename the Bald Eagle the Canada Eagle. We have more of them anyway.

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  • [–] 5 points 13 hours ago

    Alright, where is that to-do list. I swear, I filed it under G for Geneva when I immigrated...

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  • [–] 6 points 15 hours ago

    It's just an excursion.

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  • [–] 13 points 18 hours ago

    I don't want us to be at war with the US, but I don't want us to be subjugated by them either. it's bad enough the Americans are subjugated by themselves

    their militant psychopath leaders and their sycophants can choke on a bag of dicks though if they wouldn't enjoy it so much

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  • [–] 60 points 23 hours ago* (5 children)

    Yeah because it would be the most embarrassing defeat in history. For the USA

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    [–] 50 points 23 hours ago* (1 child)

    Your white house burned down long before modern submarines existed dude.. sit down.

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  • [–] 32 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    Trump has already started the tear down for us, it would not be as glorious this time but seeing a bunch of piss drunk Canadians do it again would be fun.

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  • [–] [S] 34 points 23 hours ago (11 children)

    The Canadian military did an analysis of how to fight a war with America. The study's conclusion was the most devastating and effective strategy is to sit back and watch them destroy themselves.

    Best we can do for ourselves is to unplug from their systems.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    Industrial base of US is all very close to border. Very active lobbying of those states to join as Canadian provinces should be made, making it clear that their entire base of wealth/employment is dependent on factories not burning. It's not enough for them to just complain that tariffs are inconvenient to them.

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  • [–] 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (5 children)

    If we're thinking of the same study, that was because the US attempting to invade canada would be such a drastically unpopular move that it would kick off a US civil war in response. Also Canada wasn't planning to sit back, but to not engage directly / do a guerilla for the actual invasion while supporting the pro-canada/sanity side with intelligence and materiel.

    It was never "watch them destroy themselves", the last damn thing Canada wants is a gutted former superpower with an uncertain political outlook next door.

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  • [–] 5 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    The plan is to fuel the separatists in Alberta, then after a massive campaign to legitimize them annex part of Alberta under the guise of a referendum. After all, if they vote to join, it's democratic.

    Read up on how they captured Hawaii. It doesn't have to be a shooting war and it doesn't have to be all of Canada.

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  • [–] 15 points 19 hours ago

    One is a cockroach, the other is make believe.

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  • [–] 16 points 19 hours ago* (1 child)

    They're just pissed because they're losing JTF2.

    Seriously Canadas special forces are literally the most elite in the world.

    When they need it done with zero mistakes, they send JTF2.

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  • [–] 31 points 22 hours ago

    From the administration who just launched a few hundred million dollars worth of tomahawks at Iran without saying they were at war with them either.

    I really wish journalists with integrity were allowed to question these dorks. They would be eviscerated every follow up question.

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  • [–] 37 points 23 hours ago* (1 child)

    Just like the russia attacking Ukraine is not a war.

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  • [–] 34 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    Insulting your closest geographical and cultural ally is a very strong move for very strong and serious men to do. it's so strong. This is how you know they have strong policy. they kid around and made dumb jokes about a country we have fought modern wars side by side with.

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  • [–] 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child)

    For decades the canadians have lorded over us, their geese show no respect for our customs and immigration laws, flouting them with impunity. I hear they are illegal voting for the democrat party.

    Then all of this smoke sent down here?

    Fuck that! Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the wall!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Please do. The geese and smoke will flow over it, while leaving us with some modest protection against the ingress of US troops.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Better keep the armoured moose cavalry brigades on standby near the front inn case though.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    I was thinking we should just arm bears. Nothing like a grizzly with a rifle in its paws to make someone think twice about approaching.

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  • [–] 22 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

    We should just cut off all the electricity we send down there, all the gas we send down there (I know Smith will have a hissy fit but oh well), we should stop sending all the lumber down there, we should stop sending all the metal down there, we should stop sending all the uranium down there, and just to top it off we should stop sending all the potash down there and see how long until they starve.

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  • [–] 1 point 50 minutes ago

    Unpopular opinion but that would be disproportionate escalation.

    Alberta sends crude oil south and then refined gasoline, jet fuel is sent north. We have a mutual dependency on each other. Causing too much pain for them or ourselves will not be good. A fuel crisis could be an excuse for Trump to declare a National Emergency with justification for even more escalation.

    The rules of a trade war are to match their import tariffs with our import tariffs. Canada is targeting our counter tariffs at USA products mainly coming from purple/red states:

    https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2026/08/list-of-products-from-the-united-states-subject-to-counter-tariffs-effective-september-8-2026.html

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    [–] 21 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

    Wild to say you're not afraid of an invasion from the only country that's ever successfully invaded the US. What can Canada do? Burn down the White House again.

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    [–] 7 points 19 hours ago

    Every word out of that man's mouth is a lie.

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