▲ 244 ▼ Microsoft workers in Czechia win first collective agreement (www.uni-europa.org) submitted 1 day ago by chobeat@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world 10 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 31 points 22 hours ago (2 children) Next headline: Microsoft closes all offices in the Czech Republic. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chobeat@lemmy.ml [S] 16 points 21 hours ago (1 child) it's not the USA. You can't just do that. There are workers' protections against stuff like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 11 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Sadly they can, there is no law stopping a company from shutting down offices. They'll have to pay people who are laid off a few months' salary with no work performed but it might be a better deal to MS compared to paying higher wages forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] majster@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago Yeah but the public sector contracts. I think MS will be happy to eat the costs and keep those contracts permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children) They'd have to effectively close down the Czech branch of the company. There used to be shenanigans where an owner would shut down one company and continue as another but goverment labor watchdogs have gotten wise to such methods. And it would be ridiculously overt for a corporation like Microsoft especially under these circumstances when they're in the full spotlight. No, they'll try to "lobby" the politicians as usual and push for union-unfriendly legislation, try to limit union applicability to certain industry branches, and if all else fails pull out of Czech Republic and hope the rest of Eastern Europe doesn't follow suit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) They'd do just that. Then they'd employ 'third parties' (read: 'shell companies') that would do their biddings. That's how its been done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 2 hours ago Which is why, hopefully, this union will progress to being a national IT union and not remain a strictly one-time Microsoft thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago (1 child) They’d have to effectively close down the Czech branch of the company. Yeah, I think that's basically what they're going to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chobeat@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 20 hours ago that means also potentially stop selling their product in the country. Most big tech companies operate in open violation of GDPR and they are not held accountable only for political reasons. If the government has enough pressure to act, they might force Microsoft to bargain with a lot of leverage on the table. 1300 specialized jobs in Czech are no little business. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 20 hours ago when Estonia? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml [S] 16 points 21 hours ago (1 child) it's not the USA. You can't just do that. There are workers' protections against stuff like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 11 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Sadly they can, there is no law stopping a company from shutting down offices. They'll have to pay people who are laid off a few months' salary with no work performed but it might be a better deal to MS compared to paying higher wages forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] majster@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago Yeah but the public sector contracts. I think MS will be happy to eat the costs and keep those contracts permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children) They'd have to effectively close down the Czech branch of the company. There used to be shenanigans where an owner would shut down one company and continue as another but goverment labor watchdogs have gotten wise to such methods. And it would be ridiculously overt for a corporation like Microsoft especially under these circumstances when they're in the full spotlight. No, they'll try to "lobby" the politicians as usual and push for union-unfriendly legislation, try to limit union applicability to certain industry branches, and if all else fails pull out of Czech Republic and hope the rest of Eastern Europe doesn't follow suit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) They'd do just that. Then they'd employ 'third parties' (read: 'shell companies') that would do their biddings. That's how its been done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 2 hours ago Which is why, hopefully, this union will progress to being a national IT union and not remain a strictly one-time Microsoft thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago (1 child) They’d have to effectively close down the Czech branch of the company. Yeah, I think that's basically what they're going to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chobeat@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 20 hours ago that means also potentially stop selling their product in the country. Most big tech companies operate in open violation of GDPR and they are not held accountable only for political reasons. If the government has enough pressure to act, they might force Microsoft to bargain with a lot of leverage on the table. 1300 specialized jobs in Czech are no little business. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 11 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Sadly they can, there is no law stopping a company from shutting down offices. They'll have to pay people who are laid off a few months' salary with no work performed but it might be a better deal to MS compared to paying higher wages forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] majster@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago Yeah but the public sector contracts. I think MS will be happy to eat the costs and keep those contracts permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children) They'd have to effectively close down the Czech branch of the company. There used to be shenanigans where an owner would shut down one company and continue as another but goverment labor watchdogs have gotten wise to such methods. And it would be ridiculously overt for a corporation like Microsoft especially under these circumstances when they're in the full spotlight. No, they'll try to "lobby" the politicians as usual and push for union-unfriendly legislation, try to limit union applicability to certain industry branches, and if all else fails pull out of Czech Republic and hope the rest of Eastern Europe doesn't follow suit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) They'd do just that. Then they'd employ 'third parties' (read: 'shell companies') that would do their biddings. That's how its been done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 2 hours ago Which is why, hopefully, this union will progress to being a national IT union and not remain a strictly one-time Microsoft thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago (1 child) They’d have to effectively close down the Czech branch of the company. Yeah, I think that's basically what they're going to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chobeat@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 20 hours ago that means also potentially stop selling their product in the country. Most big tech companies operate in open violation of GDPR and they are not held accountable only for political reasons. If the government has enough pressure to act, they might force Microsoft to bargain with a lot of leverage on the table. 1300 specialized jobs in Czech are no little business. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] majster@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 hours ago Yeah but the public sector contracts. I think MS will be happy to eat the costs and keep those contracts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children) They'd have to effectively close down the Czech branch of the company. There used to be shenanigans where an owner would shut down one company and continue as another but goverment labor watchdogs have gotten wise to such methods. And it would be ridiculously overt for a corporation like Microsoft especially under these circumstances when they're in the full spotlight. No, they'll try to "lobby" the politicians as usual and push for union-unfriendly legislation, try to limit union applicability to certain industry branches, and if all else fails pull out of Czech Republic and hope the rest of Eastern Europe doesn't follow suit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) They'd do just that. Then they'd employ 'third parties' (read: 'shell companies') that would do their biddings. That's how its been done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 2 hours ago Which is why, hopefully, this union will progress to being a national IT union and not remain a strictly one-time Microsoft thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago (1 child) They’d have to effectively close down the Czech branch of the company. Yeah, I think that's basically what they're going to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chobeat@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 20 hours ago that means also potentially stop selling their product in the country. Most big tech companies operate in open violation of GDPR and they are not held accountable only for political reasons. If the government has enough pressure to act, they might force Microsoft to bargain with a lot of leverage on the table. 1300 specialized jobs in Czech are no little business. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child) They'd do just that. Then they'd employ 'third parties' (read: 'shell companies') that would do their biddings. That's how its been done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 2 hours ago Which is why, hopefully, this union will progress to being a national IT union and not remain a strictly one-time Microsoft thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 2 hours ago Which is why, hopefully, this union will progress to being a national IT union and not remain a strictly one-time Microsoft thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago (1 child) They’d have to effectively close down the Czech branch of the company. Yeah, I think that's basically what they're going to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chobeat@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 20 hours ago that means also potentially stop selling their product in the country. Most big tech companies operate in open violation of GDPR and they are not held accountable only for political reasons. If the government has enough pressure to act, they might force Microsoft to bargain with a lot of leverage on the table. 1300 specialized jobs in Czech are no little business. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 20 hours ago that means also potentially stop selling their product in the country. Most big tech companies operate in open violation of GDPR and they are not held accountable only for political reasons. If the government has enough pressure to act, they might force Microsoft to bargain with a lot of leverage on the table. 1300 specialized jobs in Czech are no little business. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 20 hours ago when Estonia? permalink fedilink source parent
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